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    Promoter Eddie Hearn doesn't believe Deontay Wilder is the same fighter who held the WBC heavyweight title from 2015 to 2020.
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  • #2
    He's gunshy because the featherfisted Fury pieced him up and took pieces of his soul.

    He (Fury) also took "the biggest puncher in history" punches and got up multiple times and took the fight straight back to him and made him look clueless on the backfoot, making it easier for all future opponents.

    Once he bought into the "all I need is 1 second" BS he was finished, Stiverne one was arguably his best performance when he was behind somewhat decent jab, disguising the right hand somewhat effectively and he's never implemented that style since...

    It's truly shocking because Breland had said in interviews he tried to impress how imperative a solid jab was on Wilder but he just wouldn't listen and was too lazy for road work...

    When the rubber meets the road he comes unstuck, oh well.

    The kid will be in the history books regardless of peoples opinion, he done well for a late starter, he provided for his family in the best way he could and he was vulnerable and dangerous which makes him must watch TV.

    I'll miss the lil country bumpkin either way, it was a good run for a limited fighter.

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    • #3
      You are right Eddie. Wilder is not the same anymore because he doesn’t need it anymore. The hunger is gone and he no longer wants it.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Boro View Post
        He's gunshy because the featherfisted Fury pieced him up and took pieces of his soul.

        He (Fury) also took "the biggest puncher in history" punches and got up multiple times and took the fight straight back to him and made him look clueless on the backfoot, making it easier for all future opponents.

        Once he bought into the "all I need is 1 second" BS he was finished, Stiverne one was arguably his best performance when he was behind somewhat decent jab, disguising the right hand somewhat effectively and he's never implemented that style since...

        It's truly shocking because Breland had said in interviews he tried to impress how imperative a solid jab was on Wilder but he just wouldn't listen and was too lazy for road work...

        When the rubber meets the road he comes unstuck, oh well.

        The kid will be in the history books regardless of peoples opinion, he done well for a late starter, he provided for his family in the best way he could and he was vulnerable and dangerous which makes him must watch TV.

        I'll miss the lil country bumpkin either way, it was a good run for a limited fighter.
        Deontay Wilder is a power puncher, but there is really no evidence that he is the biggest most devastating puncher in history 'Wladimir Kiltschko is statistically a more proven power puncher than Deontay Wilder. Kiltschko during his career had stopped or knocked out more top level Heavyweights than Deontay Wilder'.

        In fact? I would most likely even rate a peak David Haye overall as a more devastating offensive fighter than Deontay Wilder 'Just like Kiltschko, Haye has stopped and knocked out more top level fighters than Wilder. David Haye even as a Heavyweight, whenever he won a fight it was by stoppage or knock-out'.

        In terms of all time rankings, Deontay Wilder is not a more devastating power puncher and offensive fighter than Mike Tyson 'I believe people need to stop pushing this narrative now. I understand that the people most likely promoting this narrative are all hardcore Fury fans'.

        Note: Deontay Wilder regardless has been one of the Heavyweight mountains of his era, he was the in my opinion 'And solid WBC World Heavyweight Champion. In comparison to Fury, Wilder actually to a greater extent took on all comers. If this was not the case? Fury vs Wilder I & II would of not happened. Neither would of Deontay Wilder been able to make 10 defences of his WBC World Heavyweight titles'.

        Stylistically Deontay Wilder was maybe fortunate that he appeared in the Heavyweight Division during this modern era 'Of course Wilder has power, aggression and determination. But outside of those attributes, I have stated this many times before? Deontay Wilder's pure boxing skills, are in and round European level. Nobody can really rate Deontay Wilder in terms of technical ability much higher than a European level fighter'.

        Deontay Wilder has negated those drawbacks, with his power, agression, determination and courage 'And that way of fighting is extremely admirable. Deontay Wilder found a way to be competitive at World and Elite level, without any elite level skills'.

        Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua 'Those are the three Heavyweight mountains of this era. All of the fights which are happening now, are the conclusive battles of their era'.

        And as I told you awhile back Boro, in this competition between the top-4 Heavyweights to see who will be the last man standing of this era 'In a drawn out battle, the trajectory of the competition may move back towards Oleksandr Uysk and Anthony Joshua. I theorized this many months ago, almost over 1 year before Tyson Fury eventually fought Oleksandr Uysk'.

        Since May 18th, Tyson Fury is no longer the WBC World Heavyweight Champion. Oleksandr Uysk is the Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion 'Anthony Joshua is the Heavyweight, that nobody wants to talk about. Metaphorical when his critics see him walking down the street? They cross over the road'.

        That is pretty much the situation in the Heavyweight Division, in the conclusive stages of this era etc.









        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 06-02-2024, 07:17 AM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

          Deontay Wilder is a power puncher, but there is really no evidence that he is the biggest most devastating puncher in history 'Wladimir Kiltschko is statistically a more proven power puncher than Deontay Wilder. Kiltschko during his career had stopped or knocked out more top level Heavyweights than Deontay Wilder'.

          In fact? I would most likely even rate a peak David Haye overall as a more devastating offensive fighter than Deontay Wilder 'Just like Kiltschko, Haye has stopped and knocked out more top level fighters than Wilder. David Haye even as a Heavyweight, whenever he won a fight it was by stoppage or knock-out'.

          In terms of all time rankings, Deontay Wilder is not a more devastating power puncher and offensive fighter than Mike Tyson 'I believe people need to stop pushing this narrative now. I understand that the people most likely promoting this narrative are all hardcore Fury fans'.

          Note: Deontay Wilder regardless has been one of the Heavyweight mountains of his era, he was the in my opinion 'And solid WBC World Heavyweight Champion. In comparison to Fury, Wilder actually to a greater extent took on all comers. If this was not the case? Fury vs Wilder I & II would of not happened. Neither would of Deontay Wilder be able to make 10 defences of his WBC World Heavyweight titles'.

          Stylistically Deontay Wilder was maybe fortunate that he appeared in the Heavyweight Division in this era 'Of course Wilder has power, aggression and determination. But outside of those attributes, I have stated this many times before? Deontay Wilder's pure boxing skills, are in and round European level. Nobody can really rate Deontay Wilder in terms of technical ability much higher than a European level fighter'.

          Deontay Wilder has negated those drawbacks, with his power, agression, determination and courage 'And that way of fighting is extremely admirable. Deontay Wilder found a way to be competitive at World and Elite level, without any elite level skills'.

          Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua 'Those are the three Heavyweight mountains of this era. All of the fights which are happening now, are the conclusive battles of their era'.

          And as I told you awhile back Boro, in this competition between the top-4 Heavyweights to see who will be the last man standing of this era 'In a draw out battle, the trajectory of the competition may move back towards Oleksandr Uysk and Anthony Joshua. I theorized this many months ago, almost over 1 year before Tyson Fury eventually fought Oleksandr Uysk'.

          Since May 18th, Tyson Fury is no longer the WBC World Heavyweight Champion. Oleksandr Uysk is the Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion 'Anthony Joshua is the Heavyweight, that nobody wants to talk about. Metaphorical when his critics see him walking down the street? They cross over the road'.

          That is pretty much the situation in the Heavyweight Division, in these conclusive stages of this era etc.










          I put it in quotation marks for a reason pal...

          And there is a reason Usyk and his team said Fury was a harder fight than AJ and as i've said in multiple threads Fury can adjust his style to beat Usyk.

          And he's shown this in every rematch he's had à la fighting almost exclusively southpaw against Chisora in the second fight, going from a boxer to all out aggressor in the second Wilder fight.

          He just has to up the work rate, lean on Usyk more, not languish on the ropes, sit down on his punches and throw in combination.

          AJ isn't spoken about because he hasn't done anything noteworthy since regaining his titles from Ruiz and that's even somewhat laughable to say...

          The late replacement michelin man who was a massive underdog beating him up and making him quit in his first fight outside of the UK was a terrible look.​
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          • #6
            Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
            You are right Eddie. Wilder is not the same anymore because he doesn’t need it anymore. The hunger is gone and he no longer wants it.
            Hey
            Champion4ever You're late...
            I've been looking for you in these Wilder loss comments
            Wilder's attire wasn't too heavy this time around right?
            You think Zhang gloves should be checked?What's up?
            Last edited by greeneye99; 06-02-2024, 07:06 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

              in these conclusive stages of this era etc.
              I don't rate anyone of this era either way, it's a bunch of mediocre talent who've made good money with their limited ability, Usyk being the most skilled of the lot but even then he hasn't been in the division long enough to truly stamp his legacy, like guys like Lewis, Tyson, Wlad, Louis etc etc all with double digit title fight WINS.

              Especially when everyone and their mothers are claiming Fury is a bum, AJ is a bum, Wilder is a bum, so how do anyone separate themselves because beating a bum surely doesn't do anything for your career...

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              • #8
                If you want to see a "more familiar Wilder", give him Christian Hammer or someone worse.

                Edit: or give him Szpilka AGAIN.
                Last edited by BoxOfficer; 06-02-2024, 07:46 AM.
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                • #9
                  Once again, more evidence of how poor Wilder really is and always has been. Since he started fighting legit top 10, it's L,L and another big fat L, one after the other. Well done to Finkle for the success of this sham though. But we can see for real now, that Wilder has always been a poorly manufactured, sub standard product, that was well marketed to make a few bucks. In the real world there's levels. And Wilder is poor quality.

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                  • #10
                    Zhang was only 68lbs heavier than wilder lol?!!!!

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