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Originally posted by Bob View Post
Let's be honest, & this is from a boxing fan sick of Aj Wilder & Fury.
Kanyes 19th fight was against a retired shot 41 year old Wlad (removed from the tbrb rankings) who like Wilder now at 39 couldn't let his punches go against Fury 2 year's before. Aj had to go life & death & only age beat Klitschko that night not Aj because he was done & at 41 Wlad had emptied the tank.
Fury's now faced 3 world number 1s for all the belts, had the greatest trilogy since Bowe Holyfield in the 90s with a former number 1(after Kanye got rag dolled by #15 Ruiz)
Wlad 41, Pov 38, Pulev 40, Takem 38, Helenius 40, a who's who of shot old men.
It's easy to write a tiny fact to manipulate your narrative, to me all 3 are as bad as each other.BoxOfficer likes this.
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“It puts things into perspective when you watch from the outside. [When I’m boxing] I just have this view of what’s in front of me, but [tonight] I had a view of the ring walks, everything behind the scenes, and it makes me realize that what I’m doing isn’t enough. It’s not about winning, it’s about dominating."
the switch has been flipped, the ole terminator is back, no mercy from now on
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Originally posted by Boxviewer View Post
Where you is your nonsensical statement based on?
BTW, are you indirectly saying that DDD beat up a washed up fighter in Hrgovic? Some of lots are so ****** that you don't have a clue what you are talking about or implying.
Wilder would be the one who is washed up but if you had a hard time understanding that , then forget it
You still nuthugging I see
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Originally posted by Boro View Post
That's terrible to call Wlad "pre-retirement" when it's still AJs best win and it was almost 2 years after Fury beat him and 2 years removed from Wlads last win...
And of course Fury is looking worse, like Hatton the constant weight loss and supping of pints and sniffing of lines has caught up to him.
As well as the over reliance on powers of recovery if he was a consummate professional it might be a different discussion but he's not.
Wilder isn't a risk to anyone and hasn't been since the Fury fights and arguably even earlier still.
You could say it's been since the second Stiverne fight where he started buying into the one punch and they're done nonsense.
Neglecting to realise Stiverne was fresh off the couch 2 years out of the ring and 30 pounds over his normal fighting weight...
Tyson Fury pulled out of that scheduled rematch twice, forcing Wladimir Kiltschko to endure three back to back training camps 'Before eventually fighting Anthony Joshua'.
Anthony Joshua fought Wladimir Kiltschko 17 months after Tyson Fury 'Not two years'.
Wladimir Kiltschko by his own estimations was better prepared for Anthony Joshua 'Wladimir Kiltschko weighed in at 240 pounds vs Anthony Joshua, compare to 245 pounds vs Tyson Fury'.
Note: Anthony Joshua's win over Wladimir Kiltschko, in terms of the actual action inside of the ring 'Was a superior and more conclusive win over Kiltschko, than Fury's performance'.
No matter what distorted versions of boxing history people attempt to promote 'The facts of boxing history are, that Tyson Fury did not beat up Wladimir Kiltschko into retirement. Anthony Joshua was the fighter who achieved such a feat, and conclusively took the Heavyweight Division into a completely new dynasty'.
Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua 'Is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years. It surpasses anything fight that as occurred within this era. On April 29th 2017, the Heavyweight Division was conclusively taken into a completely new dynasty by Anthony Joshua'.
Tyson Fury's win over Wladimir Kiltschko is a great win in terms of historical significance, but Tyson Fury did not take the Heavyweight Divisions into a new dynasty 'The Fury Heavyweight reign, did not really start until he beat Deontay Wilder in their second fight'.
Tyson Fury won one fight over the distance vs Wladimir Kiltschko 'Then he disappeared unfortunately due to his then circumstance, Wladimir Kiltschko was not conquered by Tyson Fury'.
And Wladimir Kiltschko himself alluded to this fact, when he compared himself to Mount Everest 'During the build up to his fight vs Anthony Joshua'.
Wladimir Kiltschko stated 'During his career he has lost fights, there have been many fighters who have climbed the mountain. But just like Mount Everest he is still here, and those fighters are not'.
The difference between Anthony Joshua's win over Wladimir Kiltschko compared to Tyson Fury's is 'That Anthony Joshua not only climbed the mountain, he stayed around at the summit and conclusively took the Heavyweight Division into a completely new dynasty, and over time became a Heavyweight mountain himself as a Champion'.
To conclude: What people need to understand about reality and history? Is that the Truth is always going to be the truth 'There could be billions of people who deny historical facts, and the truth. But that is almost irrelevant, because the Truth will always remain'.
The reason why I am sharing this information, is because boxing is not a sport 'Where I think people should be distorting History, or denying feats of achievement. If people want to continue behaving this way, they can potentially at their own peril' etc.
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I respect Dubois for being so battle tested at such a young age but I dont think he has much for Joshua if that fight happens anytime soon tbh. Think AJ would spark him pretty quick.
As for AJ/Wilder, who even gives a **** anymore honestly? its a fight that should have happened in like 2018.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
After Tyson Fury beat Wladimir Kiltschko 'Kiltschko never retired. Wladimir Kiltschko immediately initiated his rematch clause, to fight Tyson Fury in a second fight'.
Tyson Fury pulled out of that scheduled rematch twice, forcing Wladimir Kiltschko to endure three back to back training camps 'Before eventually fighting Anthony Joshua'.
Anthony Joshua fought Wladimir Kiltschko 17 months after Tyson Fury 'Not two years'.
Wladimir Kiltschko by his own estimations was better prepared for Anthony Joshua 'Wladimir Kiltschko weighed in at 240 pounds vs Anthony Joshua, compare to 245 pounds vs Tyson Fury'.
Note: Anthony Joshua's win over Wladimir Kiltschko, in terms of the actual action inside of the ring 'Was a superior and more conclusive win over Kiltschko, than Fury's performance'.
No matter what distorted versions of boxing history people attempt to promote 'The facts of boxing history are, that Tyson Fury did not beat up Wladimir Kiltschko into retirement. Anthony Joshua was the fighter who achieved such a feat, and conclusively took the Heavyweight Division into a completely new dynasty'.
Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua 'Is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years. It surpasses anything fight that as occurred within this era. On April 29th 2017, the Heavyweight Division was conclusively taken into a completely new dynasty by Anthony Joshua'.
Tyson Fury's win over Wladimir Kiltschko is a great win in terms of historical significance, but Tyson Fury did not take the Heavyweight Divisions into a new dynasty 'The Fury Heavyweight reign, did not really start until he beat Deontay Wilder in their second fight'.
Tyson Fury won one fight over the distance vs Wladimir Kiltschko 'Then he disappeared unfortunately due to his then circumstance, Wladimir Kiltschko was not conquered by Tyson Fury'.
And Wladimir Kiltschko himself alluded to this fact, when he compared himself to Mount Everest 'During the build up to his fight vs Anthony Joshua'.
Wladimir Kiltschko stated 'During his career he has lost fights, there have been many fighters who have climbed the mountain. But just like Mount Everest he is still here, and those fighters are not'.
The difference between Anthony Joshua's win over Wladimir Kiltschko compared to Tyson Fury's is 'That Anthony Joshua not only climbed the mountain, he stayed around at the summit and conclusively took the Heavyweight Division into a completely new dynasty, and over time became a Heavyweight mountain himself as a Champion'.
To conclude: What people need to understand about reality and history? Is that the Truth is always going to be the truth 'There could be billions of people who deny historical facts, and the truth. But that is almost irrelevant, because the Truth will always remain'.
The reason why I am sharing this information, is because boxing is not a sport 'Where I think people should be distorting History, or denying feats of achievement. If people want to continue behaving this way, they can potentially at their own peril' etc.
And Joshua didn't bring it into a new era Fury did, he ended the 10 year and 18 defences reign not Joshua but yes give AJ that credit.
You're the one distorting history to fit your narrative because you're infatuated with AJ but gaslight other people for it.
Either way, no one in this era is great just like Wlad/Vitalis era, it's a weak one and no one is stand except possibly Usyk.
Which i've always said, I also thought Hunter would be a problem but when he didn't take the Hgorvic fight he really ruined his career and faded from the public's consciousness.
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Originally posted by VislorTurlough View PostJoshua heading to a bad end just like Wilder. Lost 18 rounds to Usyk. Leave before you are a highlight reel KTFO for someone like Wilder is now. Don’t be a fcking dummy and let your clown promoter bleed every last cent out of you.
I really hope he fights Zhang. AJ will be vaporized just like Wilder.
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