Comments Thread For: Sensational Daniel Dubois Destroys Filip Hrgovic In Eight Violent Rounds

[Boro]

You keep changing what you say until I quote what you actually said and have to admit it. Now you are in the weird positioning of arguing that Fury is a PED user and then spending far too much of your time trying to make a case that everyone else in the boar case is lying. The Fury's are honest people right?? (NO!)

And the BBBC (whatever they are called) did settle. Fury knew they didn't have the money to contest his case and took advantage. If you spent more time researching this instead of wild boar - you would already know this.

Offal is not actually *commonly* eaten here anymore. Only among the older generations. No one I know eats it at all anymore. I'm the only person I know who has eaten a little (liver, kidneys) in the last 10 years. No one even eat mackerel here anymore. We have to sell it all to Europe. UK people like bland lazy foods these days.

Where did I change anything?! I literally said the exact same thing to Toffee. - "I'm simply questioning the validity of the boards ban and thereby the validity of the cheating charge in this particular case, not that they're cheats, stop conflating the two things and get out of your emotions.

It's completely unreasonable and as I've said is malfeasance on the BBBofC and UKADs behalf, it's why the NADP suggested both parties come to a compromise in the first place.

Fury has clearly been juicing most of his career, there is a reason why he's said in previous interviews he thinks juicing should be legal and he doesn't believe it's that bad."

Yes it is, there is literally multiple bakeries a stone-throw from my house right now selling steak and kidney pies, shítty greasy spoons selling liver and onions and a multitude of other "offal" offerings.

It may not be as common in the south but it certainly is in the north and in Scotland and if we're going to loop it back to the Furies, the farmer is based out of Lancashire (NW) so it's plausible but extremely unlikely.

As for UK liking bland food, no, the most popular food is Indian hardly what you'd say constitutes bland, even tikka masala originated here.

Like I said, it's about the validity of the bans not the actual reality of the Furies being cheats.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Where did I change anything?! I literally said the exact same thing to Toffee. - "I'm simply questioning the validity of the boards ban and thereby the validity of the cheating charge in this particular case, not that they're cheats, stop conflating the two things and get out of your emotions.

It's completely unreasonable and as I've said is malfeasance on the BBBofC and UKADs behalf, it's why the NADP suggested both parties come to a compromise in the first place.

Fury has clearly been juicing most of his career, there is a reason why he's said in previous interviews he thinks juicing should be legal and he doesn't believe it's that bad."

Yes it is, there is literally multiple bakeries a stone-throw from my house right now selling steak and kidney pies, shítty greasy spoons selling liver and onions and a multitude of other "offal" offerings.

It may not be as common in the south but it certainly is in the north and in Scotland and if we're going to loop it back to the Furies, the farmer is based out of Lancashire (NW) so it's plausible but extremely unlikely.

As for UK liking bland food, no, the most popular food is Indian hardly what you'd say constitutes bland, even tikka masala originated here.

Like I said, it's about the validity of the bans not the actual reality of the Furies being cheats.

Let me ask you - Given that you say Fury is juicing anyway. Do you really believe that Fury and his cousin ate uncastrated wild boar from this farmer? Or do you think they Googled for natural sources of Nandrolone and chose something they could have eaten and then paid off a farmer (as he claimed) to say he sold it to them?

Bear in mind the farmer put himself in trouble by saying he lied in his original testimony. Why would he suddenly change his mind? And surely it would be possible to check if he had ever sold wild boar. Someone would have come forward to say they bought it from him in the past....

[Boro]

Let me ask you - Given that you say Fury is juicing anyway. Do you really believe that Fury and his cousin ate uncastrated wild boar from this farmer? Or do you think they Googled for natural sources of Nandrolone and chose something they could have eaten and then paid off a farmer (as he claimed) to say he sold it to them?

Bear in mind the farmer put himself in trouble by saying he lied in his original testimony. Why would he suddenly change his mind? And surely it would be possible to check if he had ever sold wild boar. Someone would have come forward to say they bought it from him in the past....

Why would I care if they ate anything, even if they did knowingly or otherwise strict liability is a thing so they'd be culpable anyways.

My point is as I stated the validity of the ban and the reason they came to a compromise that's in question.

Primarily based on the BBBofC mishandling of the whole thing as I've said multiple times, including in the very post you're responding to...

Why would he change his mind? oh I don't know he suddenly decided to do so right after the Wilder fight, were fighters guarantees are public record, something which doesn't hold true in the UK...

Perhaps it was a mere coincidence, he went to Frank first and when that didn't work he tried to sell his story to the media rather than going to the BBBofC first and foremost.

Aka the very same reason he allegedly lied about it in the first place MONEY.

Judge the farmer for his actions not his words and if you do so his actions seem to indicate money is his top priority not "the truth".

just to quote myself one last time "The reality is his "information" should be dismissed completely and the primary focus should be on the Furies and their strict liability when it comes to the ALLEGED boar meat and the BBBofC complete failure as an organization.

And if that happened Furies should've been banned after the Hammer and Rudenko wins and Wilder may not of choose to go the WBC route, AJ wouldn't be picking up belts against scrubs and we may of had a completely different heavyweight division right now."

We might of been looking at a very different sport if the BBBofC just came forward straight away and went the strict liability route.

Wilder might of fought Wlad and potentially beat a Wlad who was dealing with Hayden Panettiere going through postnatal depression.

AJ could've ended up fighting a much younger Povetkin for the WBC and we might of actually got an undisputed fight between Wilder and AJ assuming he beat a fresher Povetkin who was still juicing at the time (legally).

[Roberto Vasquez]

Why would I care if they ate anything, even if they did knowingly or otherwise strict liability is a thing so they'd be culpable anyways.

My point is as I stated the validity of the ban and the reason they came to a compromise that's in question.

Primarily based on the BBBofC mishandling of the whole thing as I've said multiple times, including in the very post you're responding to...

Why would he change his mind? oh I don't know he suddenly decided to do so right after the Wilder fight, were fighters guarantees are public record, something which doesn't hold true in the UK...

Perhaps it was a mere coincidence, he went to Frank first and when that didn't work he tried to sell his story to the media rather than going to the BBBofC first and foremost.

Aka the very same reason he allegedly lied about it in the first place MONEY.

Judge the farmer for his actions not his words and if you do so his actions seem to indicate money is his top priority not "the truth".

just to quote myself one last time "The reality is his "information" should be dismissed completely and the primary focus should be on the Furies and their strict liability when it comes to the ALLEGED boar meat and the BBBofC complete failure as an organization.

And if that happened Furies should've been banned after the Hammer and Rudenko wins and Wilder may not of choose to go the WBC route, AJ wouldn't be picking up belts against scrubs and we may of had a completely different heavyweight division right now."

We might of been looking at a very different sport if the BBBofC just came forward straight away and went the strict liability route.

Wilder might of fought Wlad and potentially beat a Wlad who was dealing with Hayden Panettiere going through postnatal depression.

AJ could've ended up fighting a much younger Povetkin for the WBC and we might of actually got an undisputed fight between Wilder and AJ assuming he beat a fresher Povetkin who was still juicing at the time (legally).

I would say more likely the farmer wasn't paid off by the Fury's like he was promised. Like I said there was no record he had ever sold wild boar and the Fury's claimed they had bought it from him and got him to sign 2 statements confirming this. There is 100% evidence out there of Fury's lying about a ton of things in the past. And we know the farmer is not someone you can believe. Makes sense to me.

Always go for the most obvious solution - that they didn't eat a wild boar and they just took PEDs and the farmer was someone they paid to cover up their PED use

[zod66]

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