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  • jrosales13
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    #51
    Originally posted by alexpz
    Yeah I do agree that you need talent to be a legend. But how can you be a legend if you don't use your talent wisely.
    Name a legend who has not used their talent wisely? There is none. All legendary fighters used their talent wisely.

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    • joartcc5
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      #52
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Ok I see you talking about Floyd. But, what is your description of a talented fighter? And, name all the legendary fighters you can. And, tell which one did not have talent. Floyd is not a legend I agree. But, don't say you don't need talent to become a legend. Cuz in reality you can not become legendary without talent.
      A talented fighter is someone... who fights the best and wins over them.

      Talent and results will shut every other description.

      In boxing... add resume.

      Talent is nothing without results.

      And again in boxing... add resume.

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      • alexpz
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        #53
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        Name a legend who has not used their talent wisely? There is none. All legendary fighters used their talent wisely.
        Thats the point All legendary fighter used their talent. In order for Floyd to to become legend he needs to use his talents against top WW boxer. Fighting top LW or JWW boxer can't used your talent to the limit since Floyd is a WW. To test his talents he should start fight WW or even fight MW if he has the balls.

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        • jrosales13
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          #54
          Originally posted by joartcc5
          A talented fighter is someone... who fights the best and wins over them.

          Talent and results will shut every other description.

          In boxing... add resume.

          Talent is nothing without results.

          And again in boxing... add resume.
          And, how to you beat the best? With talent right? So why would you say that talent does not have anything to do with it. To be legendary you need a lot of intangibles. And, talent is one of them. Nobody fights the best and beats the best without having talent. So for you to say talent has nothing to do with it. Makes you wrong. Talent has a lot to do with becoming legendary

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            #55
            Originally posted by alexpz
            Thats the point All legendary fighter used their talent. In order for Floyd to to become legend he needs to use his talents against top WW boxer. Fighting top LW or JWW boxer can't used your talent to the limit since Floyd is a WW. To test his talents he should start fight WW or even fight MW if he has the balls.
            I agree about Floyd. But, I was not caught up on Floyd. I was more caught up with Joartcc5 comment about 'talent has nothing to do with it.' talent has a lot to do with becoming legendary. That is my point. You need talent.

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              #56
              Heat,Courage,Skill and Determination

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              • BritishBoxing92
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                #57
                *Heart,Courage,Skill and Determination to win

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                • joartcc5
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  And, how to you beat the best? With talent right? So why would you say that talent does not have anything to do with it. To be legendary you need a lot of intangibles. And, talent is one of them. Nobody fights the best and beats the best without having talent. So for you to say talent has nothing to do with it. Makes you wrong. Talent has a lot to do with becoming legendary
                  Talent in itself is crap unless you prove it.

                  In the end get the results, fight the best, and that's all there is to it.

                  Ur just beating around the bush... I just make sure were on point.

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                  • joartcc5
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    I agree about Floyd. But, I was not caught up on Floyd. I was more caught up with Joartcc5 comment about 'talent has nothing to do with it.' talent has a lot to do with becoming legendary. That is my point. You need talent.
                    You need results. Talent is only a means to an end.

                    And talent is subjective.

                    FIghting the best and beating them... not.

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