Buddy the 1980s was the Mike tyson era. No one was badmouthing boxing back then.
You're obviously young.
They were saying the exact same things people say now - the division is weak, the fights suck, they're nothing compared to fighters of the past.
In the 80s people said Tyson was KOing everyone in the first round because the division was weak. People felt ripped off they'd buy a PPV and it would end in a minute or two. When he lost to Douglas it was "See? He got exposed by a journeyman. He was nothing compared to Foreman, Frazier, Ali."
People also said that about Ali when he was fighting - they'd say Ali was obviously good, but it was a tragedy that the heavyweight division was so weak that they'd never know how good he could be against really good heavyweights.
Some good fights here n there, I still love the sport.... but the INTERNET and fans have ruined the most for me it so i just don't engage as much, it gives a bad taste to not be able to have a decent conversation without insults and insanity with others concerning the sport I love just because we have different opinions, grown men telling others to suck their Dk and all kinds of wierdo sht. defending drug cheats is crazy as well
This ^ is basically the nature of mankind in a nutshell. When people were still scratching pictures of mammoths with burnt sticks on cave walls I guarantee the clan elders would sit around the campfire bemoaning the weakness and degeneracy of the latest generation of young hunters and warriors.
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
― Socrates, almost 2500 years ago
i disagree with you people about fighters before 1950. 1920s and 1930s had insane activity and 1940s would too if not for the ww2 (force majeure). the only blemish was dempsey's inactivity and his opponent selection. highly ranked boxers fought each other many many times every year in every division. the talent pool was bigger because boxing paid the most out of all jobs available to potential young athletes and hunger, poverty were more widespread then in later eras. they had to fight more and that enabled them to earn more and build greater legacies.
activity is the most important thing and fighters are grossly inactive in this era. activity affects skill, popularity, resumes and overall earnings - basically the most important things except health. that's the main reason some people claim boxing is dying. there is not enough activity to build opponents for potential new stars. then "fans" say that boxer A beat some nobody and it doesn't count. but everybody except for 20-30 boxers in the world are nobodies for today's fans because:
-they don't follow the sport enough;
-boxers aren't active enough for regular casual citizens to notice them, nor they have good enough resumes for people to care about them at all.
at the same time boxers noticed that whatever they do, they can't satisfy a lot of spectators so why even try? they just want to earn as much as they can in the least amount of fights and get out of boxing.
it is what it is and it won't be better. however there are many good individual fights across 17 divisions but rarely between two stars. someone who only intends to watch fights like that has barely anything to see and boxing is dead to him.
Boxing is not dead, but as long as we have more "celebrityesque" fighters going at it, you're not going to see the brutal matches of the past. The desire to put yourself through hell to win one match just doesn't seem to be there anymore for fighters these days. The payouts are so high, some of these guys can nearly retire once they face 1 named opponent. Why would they subject themselves to a brutal war? The mentality is certainly not what it used to be. The Barrera-Morales, Vasquez-Marquez, Gatti-Ward type of minds are a thing of the past.
Boxing is not dead, but as long as we have more "celebrityesque" fighters going at it, you're not going to see the brutal matches of the past. The desire to put yourself through hell to win one match just doesn't seem to be there anymore for fighters these days. The payouts are so high, some of these guys can nearly retire once they face 1 named opponent. Why would they subject themselves to a brutal war? The mentality is certainly not what it used to be. The Barrera-Morales, Vasquez-Marquez, Gatti-Ward type of minds are a thing of the past.
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