Most young American "stars" are frauds. We know about fraud Haney and Gervonta, but who else?

[Eff Pandas]

The point is that it's fraud AMERICAN fighters only that get away with this **** constantly.

You think there are no "weight bullies" outside the US? I'd argue anywhere they arent doing a second weigh in gots guys who got better weight gain tactics.

Guys choose ring size & gloves & officials in other places.

Pushing your edge is more common in boxing than other sports, but no one is making guys agree to sh^t. If Donny Lalonde had wanted to defend his 175 belt vs SRL at 175 instead of 168 he could have. Sh^t even Haney coulda fought Barbosa, his sub, after Ryan missed weight. He didn't. Before the PED sh^t that L was all his own sh^t.

[Eff Pandas]

You're excusing fraud antics of fighters and their teams rigging the game of what should be a fair fight.

You're a massive fraud yourself for going along with this.

You don't understand how boxing works lol.

This happens every day. I'm not supporting anything I'm simply saying its a feature not a bug to how boxing works.

If you sell tickets you make the rules. Look at how much the WBC has bent to Canelo. Canelo isn't American. It is what it is & its nothing new.

[Pac=Duran]

Major Fraud is Terrence Crawford. Forced a midget Gamboa to move up 3 divisions to fight him and was clipped and almost stopped. Fought. A guy who had a life or death car accident, numerous eye surgeries and weight drained. They call it an ATG win.

David Benavides: refuses to fight any of the challengers at 168-175 instead chase’s canelo and is fighting a 40 year old Ukrainian who has been knocked out before. Refuses to fight Bivol, Beterbiev, Morell and anyone with a pulse.

Yes two cases of fraudulent behaviour there for sure Crawford used to be a massive weight bully but he is very legit skills wise. Also whooped the weight bully spence

[Pac=Duran]

You think there are no "weight bullies" outside the US? I'd argue anywhere they arent doing a second weigh in gots guys who got better weight gain tactics.

Guys choose ring size & gloves & officials in other places.

Pushing your edge is more common in boxing than other sports, but no one is making guys agree to sh^t. If Donny Lalonde had wanted to defend his 175 belt vs SRL at 175 instead of 168 he could have. Sh^t even Haney coulda fought Barbosa, his sub, after Ryan missed weight. He didn't. Before the PED sh^t that L was all his own sh^t.

You accept the frauding and think it's OK LOL. You are a fraud guzzler.100%

I don't care about some 1980s Dalonde ****. I'm talking about American frauds operating TODAY.

Answer the question:

Are American fraud fighters like Gervonta stacking the deck against the low tier/smaller opposition they are fighting? Do you think it is a good thing?

[Idunnoshet]

No one can protect ppl from themselves if they even require that. And the rules are the rules for everyone. If guys agree to rehydration clauses thats on them. If guys gain weight after the weigh in thats allowable.

The only question mark of the things you brought up was the Devin vs Regis fight since Devin gained 18% of his weigh in weight & you can only gain 15% in Cali so that fight COULD still be turned into a NC. Everything else was agreed to & within the rules so idk how it makes anyone a fraud.

Boxing is different than other sports. Guys can request big rings, small rings, certain types of gloves, guys can even get refs & judges who are more favorable to their style. Everyone can choose to play this game or not. If you play it you can't be mad when you lose tho.

Im pretty sure Cali only lets you gain 10%.

But even so.
All you get is a warning letter from the commission saying you weighed over the 10% allowed and the dangers of it.

No real reprecussions.

[famicommander]

Major Fraud is Terrence Crawford. Forced a midget Gamboa to move up 3 divisions to fight him and was clipped and almost stopped. Fought. A guy who had a life or death car accident, numerous eye surgeries and weight drained. They call it an ATG win.

Gamboa had already fought at lightweight 4 times, was ranked #7 by TBRB in the division, and was a reigning WBA interim world titlist when Crawford beat him at 135, and Gamboa has stayed at 135 for his whole career since then. And he had also fought 9 times at 130 and won an interim belt there.

So no, he didn't pull Gamboa up from 126. Gamboa hadn't fought at 126 for over 39 months when he stepped into the ring with Crawford.

Gamboa career fights by division
126: 10
130: 9
135: 16

[just the facts]

The point is that it's fraud AMERICAN fighters only that get away with this **** constantly.

Gervonta- Swerving most of his top comp, draining all the bums he does fight lmao- FRAUD

Haney- Rehydrating 30 pounds above the weight class he's fighting in, walking around at 190 pounds while fighting at lightweight and still unable to knockdown the tiny guys he's facing- GIGAFRAUD

Wilder- Never fighting a live body for 40 fights, holding the belt hostage while refusing to fight anyone of note, offering to pay fighters hes facing to wear different gloves lmao- FRAUD

Floyd- theraputic exemptions for testosterone, swerving a **** tonne of his top competition, retiring when the division got too hot- FRAUD

They're employing fraud tactics and americans go along with it without calling it out. If a euro or brit did this Americans would be shi tting blood about it.

You’re (not your, you illiterate phuck) an agenda driven douche bag. Therefore, no one gives a phuck about YOUR ignorant opinion.

[Pac=Duran]

You’re (not your, you illiterate phuck) an agenda driven douche bag. Therefore, no one gives a phuck about YOUR ignorant opinion.

Look at this fraudulent poster pick out some random spelling mistake caused by auto correct, rather than address the total fraudulent nature of Gervonta and Haney's career lmao

Answer the fraud accusations re tard

[dan-b]

Correct. They just get a lot of exposure due to the US media system and population.

[Pac=Duran]

Correct. They just get a lot of exposure due to the US media system and population.

Anyone that isn't a bias re tard can admit this.

Look at Klitscko vs Fury.

If Klitschko was American and that fight was staged in America (of course it would be because Americans almost never travel abroad to fight) there's a 95% chance he would have gotten the robbery.

Apologies Americans who can't understand conditionals, just take it as given you lost the argument.