(Theory) Why devin Haney can’t punch or take a solid punch

[thebrownbomber_]

He dehydrates himself almost 30 lbs and then rehydrates himself 30lbs immediately after.

24 hours objectively is not enough to get back to your prime state. That’s why he looks sluggish, slow, and his legs give out. Look at the way he reacts when he gets cracked. His legs immediately abandon him because they aren’t fully renergized from the tortorous fight camp weight cut.

In my opinion, boxing needs to go back to same day weigh ins. Look at the energy and volume of older fights like Duran Leonard, Chavez vs Randall, Tito vs Vargas, Hagler Hearms, etc. Look at how inyetse these fights were.

IMO, Devin should go to 147 or 154. That weight suits him better, objectively. He managed to crack prograis as he hadn’t cut 140 before but he’s outgrown 140 already.

[GhostofDempsey]

Some fighters can pull it off, Haney was able to do it while fighting smaller fighters. Faced with an opponent his won size it didn’t work out for him. That said, I don’t think he would be very successful at 147/154 fighting closer to his walk-around weight. Too many big hitters. Haney needs to stay conditioned all year long, fight more frequently and settle into 140.

I would like to see same day weigh-ins or rehydration clauses. A fighter should not be able to gain more than one full weight class in weight on day of the fight.

[Roadblock]

He dehydrates himself almost 30 lbs and then rehydrates himself 30lbs immediately after.

24 hours objectively is not enough to get back to your prime state. That’s why he looks sluggish, slow, and his legs give out. Look at the way he reacts when he gets cracked. His legs immediately abandon him because they aren’t fully renergized from the tortorous fight camp weight cut.

In my opinion, boxing needs to go back to same day weigh ins. Look at the energy and volume of older fights like Duran Leonard, Chavez vs Randall, Tito vs Vargas, Hagler Hearms, etc. Look at how inyetse these fights were.

IMO, Devin should go to 147 or 154. That weight suits him better, objectively. He managed to crack prograis as he hadn’t cut 140 before but he’s outgrown 140 already.

Some guys cant take a solid punch no matter where they at, with same day weighin they still gained up to 10 pounds or more by fight time and still dried out, it wasn't right before the fight it was in the morning, they changed the rules because guys were pushing it and fighting dehydrated which made the possibility of brain damage higher so they gave them 30hrs to regain the fluid they lost to make weight.

When you say 24 hrs to get back to a normal state what are you referencing It is all water its not meat or bone its all water, if you put back what was lost then in a few hours after nothing changes, its when you don't put it back or don't put enough back it matters, although you want to to be ever so slightly dry going in as you will have a better blood oxygen ratio you don't want to be overly dry or be holding too much fluid that's bad in other ways.

[Pac=Duran]

He dehydrates himself almost 30 lbs and then rehydrates himself 30lbs immediately after.

24 hours objectively is not enough to get back to your prime state. That’s why he looks sluggish, slow, and his legs give out. Look at the way he reacts when he gets cracked. His legs immediately abandon him because they aren’t fully renergized from the tortorous fight camp weight cut.

In my opinion, boxing needs to go back to same day weigh ins. Look at the energy and volume of older fights like Duran Leonard, Chavez vs Randall, Tito vs Vargas, Hagler Hearms, etc. Look at how inyetse these fights were.

IMO, Devin should go to 147 or 154. That weight suits him better, objectively. He managed to crack prograis as he hadn’t cut 140 before but he’s outgrown 140 already.

Definitely has something to do with it. Fraudulent Broner-tier career picking on tiny guys. The consumate weight bully.

What Ryan did was ****ed up but i dont mind so much tbh due to Devins dishonest strategy

[thebrownbomber_]

Some fighters can pull it off, Haney was able to do it while fighting smaller fighters. Faced with an opponent his won size it didn’t work out for him. That said, I don’t think he would be very successful at 147/154 fighting closer to his walk-around weight. Too many big hitters. Haney needs to stay conditioned all year long, fight more frequently and settle into 140.

I would like to see same day weigh-ins or rehydration clauses. A fighter should not be able to gain more than one full weight class in weight on day of the fight.

Haney got cracked hard by a smaller linares and was even in trouble against a much smaller Lomachenko in that 11th round. Haney definitely trains all year but he’s simply unable to handle dehydrating and rehydrating 30lbs.

For all tank hate towards that rehydration clause ryan actually looked faster against tank he looked slow and sluggish against haney.

[thebrownbomber_]

Some guys cant take a solid punch no matter where they at, with same day weighin they still gained up to 10 pounds or more by fight time and still dried out, it wasn't right before the fight it was in the morning, they changed the rules because guys were pushing it and fighting dehydrated which made the possibility of brain damage higher so they gave them 30hrs to regain the fluid they lost to make weight.

When you say 24 hrs to get back to a normal state what are you referencing It is all water its not meat or bone its all water, if you put back what was lost then in a few hours after nothing changes, its when you don't put it back or don't put enough back it matters, although you want to to be ever so slightly dry going in as you will have a better blood oxygen ratio you don't want to be overly dry or be holding too much fluid that's bad in other ways.

Losing 20lbs of water weight and then regaining it is absolutely changing and damaging on the body. Boxers spend a whole week trying to cut weight. Haney spends one week cutting 20lbs of water weight and then rehydrates back in one day. You need more than just one day to be at your senses and full function again. You need the same amount of time it took to lose that water weight. Your whole punch equilibrium resets and your body will feel sluggish and drained.

Haney cannot fight at 140, he needs to stop trying to be a weight bully and be like tank, who fights near his natural weight. His team is doing him nothing but harm. That’s why ryan chose to come in 3lbs overweight.

[thebrownbomber_]

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Your black hope got a gift against the white man and got beat the fvkc up and saved by his brotha ref against cryan a Mexican fighter. Deal with it boy

Hey man, at least he wasn’t sleeping on the canvas face first for a good 4 hours while his wife was nowhere to be seen

[thebrownbomber_]

Definitely has something to do with it. Fraudulent Broner-tier career picking on tiny guys. The consumate weight bully.

What Ryan did was ****ed up but i dont mind so much tbh due to Devins dishonest strategy

Weight bullying was created by errol spence. I don’t remember floyd or oscar rehydrating to light heavy weight when they were middle weights.

We need to revert back to same day weigh ins.

[Teetotaler69]

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Hey man, at least he wasn’t sleeping on the canvas face first for a good 4 hours while his wife was nowhere to be seen

How is that relevant? And his wife was there. Something froid doesn't have

[Roadblock]

Losing 20lbs of water weight and then regaining it is absolutely changing and damaging on the body. Boxers spend a whole week trying to cut weight. Haney spends one week cutting 20lbs of water weight and then rehydrates back in one day. You need more than just one day to be at your senses and full function again. You need the same amount of time it took to lose that water weight. Your whole punch equilibrium resets and your body will feel sluggish and drained.

Haney cannot fight at 140, he needs to stop trying to be a weight bully and be like tank, who fights near his natural weight. His team is doing him nothing but harm. That’s why ryan chose to come in 3lbs overweight.

What reference do you have other than you stating ? They start the process of monitoring their weight as the days count down, they know how much they can lose in the last 24 so they get the balance in tune, but the real weight cutting is in the last 24 hours before the weighin, its water that's how its possible its when you don't put enough back or put to much back the trouble starts, its been going on in fighters for a 100 yrs and in pit dogs for 200 yrs, they know how much the dry/wet ratio of body fluids benefits a fighter when its done right, and its a very individual thing, one guy can handle 20lbs easy and another cant do 10, its not the blanket you think it is, its actually a science and everybody is different

The idea that because of Haneys weight cut and rehydration is making him not take punches is the part I find BS I think Haney is chinny he has been wobbled and out on his feet in sparing sessions with no weight cut, Gatti was renowned for losing and rehydrating a lot and had a chin of steel, this is why Im asking for something solid to back up your assumption, although its a possibility I just don't see it with Haney I think he has a weak chin and has always shown it.