why do people rank jack johnson so high on atg list??

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  • larry x
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    #11
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    lol... You thought he was an all out slugger?
    not i didnt know much about him..thats why i was asking a question and not acting like i knew it all

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    • larry x
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      #12
      ive seen clips of him running around with white woman..i know in one fight he hit a guy and had to scap his teeth out of his gloves....it mustve been rough fighting in such racist times

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      • jrosales13
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        #13
        Originally posted by larry x
        not i didnt know much about him..thats why i was asking a question and not acting like i knew it all
        Is cool... I honestly feel if he was fighting right now. He would be the 3rd best HW out there. And, Maybe be able to hang with the Klitschko's. Maybe?

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        • DuttyAlacrity
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          #14
          Originally posted by Rabbit-Punches
          He did outweigh alot of his opponents
          well not everyone is perfect
          but Stanley Ketchel wanted the fight so he gave it to him
          And in Jack's defense he treated the fight as an exhibition fight until Stanley took it a little too serious so Jack had to knock his teeth out

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          • The Gambler1981
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            #15
            He was the man back then, he was an evolution in boxing style basically.

            It was a different era so how he gets rated is up for debate but he is very worthy of a high ranking though.

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            • billionaire
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              #16
              to be honest if you see a tape of jack johnson hes like twice as big as the guys he fights....he was good at catching punches and defense its hard to tell how good he'd be against good competition....

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                #17
                Originally posted by larry x
                ive seen clips of him running around with white woman..i know in one fight he hit a guy and had to scap his teeth out of his gloves....it mustve been rough fighting in such racist times
                Yea he was definitely a character Ali in some ways based his persona off of Jack Johnson's

                That fight was with Stanley Ketchel, Johnson was playing with him at first but I think Stanley got a little serious and started throwing at full power so Jack kinda felt he had to put him in place O_O

                There's a story that he was speeding (as he did a lot back then) and a white cop pulled him over and charged him an exorbitant amount for a speeding ticket (at that time where the avg ticket was four or five times lower or something) the rumor is Jack Johnson gave him double and said this for when I come back down this road... doing the same speed.
                Gotta love him.... One of my favs of all time

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by billionaire
                  to be honest if you see a tape of jack johnson hes like twice as big as the guys he fights....he was good at catching punches and defense its hard to tell how good he'd be against good competition....
                  IMO James J. Jefferies was good competition and was also bigger than Jack Johnson. And, Johnson KO'd him. And, I think retired him I might be wrong about that thouh.

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                  • Bsquared
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                    #19
                    Jack Johnson was the near equal of Ali as an athletic talent, the best defensive fighter amongst all heavyweight champions, particularly at glove blocking. He had speed, anticipation and athleticism on the level of Ali. He was dominant and rarely lost rounds in his prime. Ring magazine said “Jack Johnson boxed on his toes, could block from most any angle, was lightning fast on his feet, could feint an opponent into knots…he possessed everything a champion could hope for punch, speed, brains, cleverness, boxing ability and sharp-shooting."

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                      #20
                      This should be in the Boxing History section, Larry.

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