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  • #41
    Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post

    The reason is for one sole purpose; to divide. The division creates a plethora of voting classes to create hostility and divide people. In addition, the day you swear the oath to the country for citizenship you are no longer an “immigrant.” You are from that point forward an American CITIZEN. When I see a black person I see that PERSON as an AMERICAN. Give me any hyphenated sub division and across the board if they were born here or swore the oath, from that day forward they are an AMERICAN. In the end, I don’t give two S h I t s where you’re from. Your ancestry is your own but on this soil you’re American.
    Identity politics is dividing and degrading this great country.
    It's great to know and celebrate one's ancestry, but we're one nation, and we should act like it.
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    • #42
      Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

      Yeah, back in the good old days, everyone was just American. Like in WWII when America put its citizens from Japanese ancestry in internement camps? Doesn't really match what you're saying about "on this soil you're American."​

      "You're either American or not" definitely didn't hold up at any point of American history until the end of Jim Crow and, according to you, a whole generation don't think it applies now. So is there some narrow window when it did apply? Let me guess, it just happens to tally up with when you were growing up and a younger man?
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      Truer words have never been spoken.
      Lots of people want to believe history started either when they were growing up or after they’ve “acquired knowledge” and know better.

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      • #43
        Golden Boy and DAZN stole Canelo’s name to launch its business adventure with boxing when Golden Boy and DAZN pulled out the Contract which was not fulfilled. No one in the industry likes or trust Oscar Dela hoya

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

          The culture in AMERICAN houses. It’s real simple, if you’re born in the USA, you’re an American. I was born in England of majority Welsh, Scottish, and Irish blood, I don’t claim claim to be any of those and can’t speak any of those Celt languages. Americans hve this thing about wanting to be anything but American when it’s convenient to divide, but no one wants to live in the country they are claiming.
          The United States has this thing about not accepting everyone as Americans, and has been that way for about 250 years, so I see why many would feel like they're not "Americans." I understand that you might not know the language, or culture of your ancestors, but many in the U.S., still speak the languages, eat the food, and carry the traditions of their forebearers, while living here. I don't think it's wise for outsiders to tell them what they're not, even if it's so.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

            Yeah, back in the good old days, everyone was just American. Like in WWII when America put its citizens from Japanese ancestry in internement camps? Doesn't really match what you're saying about "on this soil you're American."​

            "You're either American or not" definitely didn't hold up at any point of American history until the end of Jim Crow and, according to you, a whole generation don't think it applies now. So is there some narrow window when it did apply? Let me guess, it just happens to tally up with when you were growing up and a younger man?
            1942….2024…..see the difference?
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            • #46
              Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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              Truer words have never been spoken.
              Lots of people want to believe history started either when they were growing up or after they’ve “acquired knowledge” and know better.
              And some people never wish to let history go because it pays to be a multi lifetime victim. It’s funny, there are still places all over the world still employing slavery yet the hate America crusade hounds never ever take their crusades across continent. It’s always bad America! Live your sin in perpetuity. We know our history, we embrace our history the good and the bad and have improved 100 fold as a result.
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              • #47
                Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

                Yeah, back in the good old days, everyone was just American. Like in WWII when America put its citizens from Japanese ancestry in internement camps? Doesn't really match what you're saying about "on this soil you're American."​

                "You're either American or not" definitely didn't hold up at any point of American history until the end of Jim Crow and, according to you, a whole generation don't think it applies now. So is there some narrow window when it did apply? Let me guess, it just happens to tally up with when you were growing up and a younger man?
                When a large group of people, let's say they call themselves "***s," live in a region on the planet, let's say they called it "Israel," and their land is conquered by other groups of people, and they are dispersed among other regions of the planet, are they still allowed to call themselves "***s," even though they live in Russia, Poland, and Germany? Does anyone ever say Hitler killed millions of "Germans" in the Holocaust?



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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post

                  And some people never wish to let history go because it pays to be a multi lifetime victim. It’s funny, there are still places all over the world still employing slavery yet the hate America crusade hounds never ever take their crusades across continent. It’s always bad America! Live your sin in perpetuity. We know our history, we embrace our history the good and the bad and have improved 100 fold as a result.
                  Have you ever heard of Gov. Ron DeSantis, or the state of Florida? I know it's not a laughing matter but LMAO!!!

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                    When a large group of people, let's say they call themselves "***s," live in a region on the planet, let's say they called it "Israel," and their land is conquered by other groups of people, and they are dispersed among other regions of the planet, are they still allowed to call themselves "***s," even though they live in Russia, Poland, and Germany? Does anyone ever say Hitler killed millions of "Germans" in the Holocaust?


                    No, they won’t. Because the hate America first crowd (as is evidenced all over the country) still use the same playbook. Don’t condemn *********s, Israel made them behead and burn babies and **** women. You won’t see them condemn and speak poorly of the *********s. But the ***s on the other hand…..

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post

                      No, they won’t. Because the hate America first crowd (as is evidenced all over the country) still use the same playbook. Don’t condemn *********s, Israel made them behead and burn babies and **** women. You won’t see them condemn and speak poorly of the *********s. But the ***s on the other hand…..
                      The question is, is it OK for citizens of Germany, Poland, and Russia, to refer to themselves as ***s, even if they never lived a day in Israel? Even if their Grandparents never lived a day in Israel?

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