As professional boxers, who has achieved more, Canelo or De La Hoya?

[Teetotaler69]

by the way I am aware that Canelo is not yet retired but without much opposition at 168 and likely not willingly fight at 175. I think his career won't end much that better or worse at the end of his career.

Oscar achievements are:

At 130 after his debut, he had beaten:
-Jeff Mayweather (24-2-2) by 4 round TKO in his fifth bout
-Jimmy Bradahl (16-0) brother of Johnny Bredahl, was a WBO super featherweight champion by 10 round TKO.

At 135, he beaten:
-Jorge Paez (53-6-4) for the Vacant WBO title
-John John Molina (36-4) who had beaten Juan Laporte
-Rafael Ruelas (43-1, 36 KOs) who had beaten Jorge Paez, Darryl Tyson and Rocky Lockridge.
-Jesse James Leija (30-1) with two wins over Azumah Nelson and Micky Ward.
-Genaro Hernanddez (32-0-1) undefeated WBA super featherweight champion.

At 140, he beaten:

-Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. (97-1-1, 79 knockouts) declining but still game, had beaten Frankie Randall to reclaim the WBC title in the rematch, Tony Lopez (45-4-1) who won a 10 round TKO against Greg Haugen and Scott Walker (22-3-1) after winning against 43-year-old Arguello. After six-win streak, the 33 year old Chavez fought a 23 year old De La Hoya who won by four round TKO.

-Miguel Angel Gonzalez (41-0) he had held the WBC title at lightweight for three years. He also had a draw with Chavez Sr after both Julio and Miguel had fought Oscar.

At 147, he had beaten:

-Arturo Gatti (33-4) a two division champion at 135-140, after his 5th round TKO by Oscar, he had a trilogy with Micky Ward, winning 2 out of 3 fights.

-Pernell Whitaker (40-1-1) who had beaten Buddy Mcgirt, Azumah Nelson, Greg Haugen, Roger Mayweather, Jose Luis Ramirez, and Wilfredo Rivera x2. The fight was close and many fans felt that Whitaker had won the fight. but considering it could go either way, it wasn't seen as a blatant robbery.

-Hector Camacho (63-3-1), declining but still game turning 35 years old. He was in a 19 win streak after his loss to Chavez Sr and Trinidad. Camacho had beaten Howard Davis Jr, Vinny Paz, Greg Haugen, Jose Luis Ramirez and Edwin Rosario.

-Wilfredo Rivera (27-2-2) who had retired nearly 50 year old Carlos Palomino and gave a very competitive bout with Whitaker in their first bout which is even seen as a controversial loss. Oscar won by 8th round TKO.

-Ike Quartey (34-0-1, 29 KOs) who was WBA Welterweight Champion, he had beaten Vince Phillips who went to beat Micky Ward and knockout undefeated Kostya Tszyu (18-0-1). The bout was close, from what I saw Quartey had taken over round 5 to the 10th after Oscar had won the initial four rounds, but De La Hoya made a comeback in the last two rounds. Both Oscar and Ike were knocked in the 6th round and De La Hoya scored another knockdown in the 12th round, overwhelming his opponent to the ropes in the end of the round.

At 154, he had beaten:

-Yori Boy Campas (80-5) IBF Champion after pulling the upset against Raul Marquez by TKO.

-Javier Castillejo (51-4) who was the WBC Champion. Oscar's first bout at 154.

-Fernando Vargas (22-1, 18 KOs) IBF and WBA Champion with wins over Yori Boy Campas, Raul Marquez, Wilfredo Rivera, Javier Castillejo, Ike Quartey and Winky Wright, Fernando had tested positive for a steroid called stanozol and had overwhelmed Oscar initially until he recovered and stopped him in the 11th round.

At 160, he had beaten:

-Felix Sturm (20-0) who became a champion at 160 and 168. Though the win can be considered quite controversial.

-Ricardo Mayorga (27-5-1) with two wins over Vernon Forrest at 147. The bout was held at 168 however.

Notes:

-He had won the gold medal in the Olympics after turning 19 year old three months later. Oscar had amateur career included 234 wins,163 by knockout, and six losses.

-His loss to Felix Trinidad is quite controversial.

-Shane Mosley had decidedly won in their first bout, but the rematch was seen as controversial. Especially considering Mosley had admitted on taking steroids from BALCO.

-Of the 17 champions listed as wins (Jeff and Rivera don't count), 11 were either knocked out or stopped. The only physically declining fighters he had beaten would have been Chavez, and Camacho.

-He has lost to 6 Hall of Famers in Mosley, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Trinidad, Bernard Hopkins and Manny Pacquiao.

That right there tells you 168 is fvkcing garbage and why carnela decided to all of a sudden unify instead of 154 and 160.

[MONGOOSE66]

Delahoya is by far the most accomplished. He was a true animal in his TRUE weight class. No one could touch him UNDER 147. AT 147 he had worn out his body already. Shell of what he once was and he STILL was impressive.

[Malvado]

Delahoya is by far the most accomplished. He was a true animal in his TRUE weight class. No one could touch him UNDER 147. AT 147 he had worn out his body already. Shell of what he once was and he STILL was impressive.

I think his prime was 147 while having declined at 154, really curious how he will have faired against Floyd if hadn't had got winded after the middle rounds, and retained the same punching power he had in his younger days.

By haNZAgod:

That right there tells you 168 is fvkcing garbage and why carnela decided to all of a sudden unify instead of 154 and 160.

Well he could had fought his mandatories in Morrell and Benavidez, hypothetically if he won those fights they would have possibly aged well in the future. But since he opted with easier alternatives both moved up, Morrell wanting to fight Benavidez while DB is trying to get the winner of Bivol/Beterviev.

Both are going to fight good, tested opponents for now.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Oscar. Not even close.