As a real hardcore boxing fan were you actually surprised that Garcia beat Haney?

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  • Teetotaler69
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    #11
    Almost everyone including myself all saw cryan losing one way or another. Either by boring decision or quitting.

    hankey was coming off a dominant win over an exposed prograis and cryan was coming off a uninspiring win against a smaller guy. Cant even remember his name. Not to mention his weirdo psycho bable.

    But yeah his win definitely brought him back some shine after quitting against stank. I still dont think hes that good despite having the natural ability he does.

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    • FinitoxDinamita
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      #12
      Only reason I picked Haney was because Garcia’s odd behaviors outside of the ring. I thought he lost the hunger but I thought wrong. That’s the only reason. Not because I believed Haney was the superior fighter or anything.

      Had this fight happened two years ago, I would have picked Garcia without hesitation.

      So only thing that really surprised me is how Ryan had everybody fooled lol.


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      • El_Maldito_Rey
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        #13
        Too lazy to dig up my old posts, or they may not even be saved anymore, but before Ryan/Tank, the odd behavior and Ryan taking time off for personal issues, I said he could KO Haney. Sometime after the Linares fight and how he was getting tagged by JoJo Diaz.

        Ryan fooled me thinking he was mental and I changed my pick. I thought Haney would run and hug his way to a boring win.

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        • 4truth
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          #14
          Originally posted by Mammoth

          Partly. Ryan had to fight a smart fight and he did. Haney is going to have to get someone real to teach him how to tighten up those fundamentals. He's never gonna have a great time dealing with speed either.
          He had just one job. Don't get hit cleanly with the left hook and he didn't even do that one thing. He probably could have out scored Ryan if his dad had super-glued his right hand to the side of his head.

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          • MONGOOSE66
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            #15
            Originally posted by Wurider
            Honestly who didn't see that coming? Not sure where the talk about this being some kind of major upset when we all knew that Haney had some issues. All of those issues got exploited.
            I had Haney winning easy on points even without Gacias weird behavior.
            Haney saw Garcia behavior as WEAKNESS, which gave him courage to take the fight to Garcia which ISNT Haneys way. He normally fights like a scared, paranoid schizophrenic.
            That is what won the fight. Haneys incorrect assumptions.

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            • thebrownbomber_
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              #16
              I was not expecting this to be one sided as tank vs garcia was. A year ago, i knew that ryan had zero chance against tank, that he would get knocked out and dominated. I thought haney would outpoint him, but we all knew haney had no power and his legs leave him as soon they get clipped. I would not be surprised if ryan got a stoppage vicyory or won via knockdowns, and that’s what happened. Ryan was also significantly larger than haney, and haney still managed to rock ryan, which speaks volume of ryan’s china chin.

              So in the end, i’m not surprised what happened at all, I am simply a ryan garvia hater and want him to fail at the elite level everytime. He still failed here as devin is the champ at 140, not 143. Ryan will never be a world championship, this fight has effectively spelled his downfall. He can’t make 140 as he admitted, and 147 is filled with elite level talent like boots, ortiz, etc who’d stop him.

              He might win a paper belt but that’s about it. He will never be a champion in his life.

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              • Eff Pandas
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                #17
                I've seen a couple funny memes & vids about this fight since all the casuals had Ryan & all the hardcores had Haney so many grown ass men had to deal with their son's or daughter's, who dksab, "I told you so-ing" them on Sunday morning over this fight.

                That said idk that any hardcore fan, for a decent period of time, is ever THAT surprised by an upset. We've seen a million upsets. So anyone being reasonable knows everyone has some % chance to win & sometimes that lottery number gets called. And I think based upon the odds Ryan had about a 20% chance to win, which ain't bad odds & not really lottery odds at all.

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                • ddeg10
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                  #18
                  I thought Haney would box and win a unanimous decision by being smart. He instead engaged and he paid for it. I knew there was a good chance Garcia would hurt him but after the first round he seemed to get it together and stick to the plan before getting rocked again. I figured Haney had a 70% chance of winning and I think if you rewind it and Haney sticks to the plan in rounds 2-6 for the rest of the night he wins. However, Garcia caught him and he never recovered. That's boxing.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by 4truth

                    He had just one job. Don't get hit cleanly with the left hook and he didn't even do that one thing. He probably could have out scored Ryan if his dad had super-glued his right hand to the side of his head.
                    Someone needs to send this post to Bill if they ever do rematch. And I agree.

                    Its kinda like saying if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle, but yea this fight was won by Ryan with one punch, the left hook, & lost by Devin by not properly preparing for it prefight or adapting to it during the fight better before the last 3rds.

                    Devin was winning this fooking fight through 9rds despite not contending well with the left hook & damn near being KO'd in the 7th. That says a ton about how much Devin had to sh^t the bed & be stubborn in the last 25% of the fight with that left hook he knew had come & was likely going to be coming in the final 9mins.

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