Comments Thread For: Bob Arum Opposed to Six Judges for Oleksdandr Usyk-Tyson Fury

[HandsofIron]

Just get rid of all the corrupt judges and let the fans decide the winner of a fight.

[Boro]

Why don’t they experiment with a lesser profile fight? This is much too big to mess with. Plus 6 is an even number. Heck they’d probably screw it up with 10 judges. I say leave it alone.

Controversy can be a driving force for a rematch, they might not even really care about the outcome of this fight...

They may be thinking of the ACTUAL money fight which is AJ vs Fury and if that goes to points and it's controversial due to the number of judge (or at least perceived to be) and this is seemingly more apparent when Turki has basically announced his favor for Fury...

[_Rexy_]

Six is ******. Do what they did at WBSS and have a fourth judge in the back watching on a monitor to break a tie.

[_Rexy_]

Controversy can be a driving force for a rematch, they might not even really care about the outcome of this fight...

They may be thinking of the ACTUAL money fight which is AJ vs Fury and if that goes to points and it's controversial due to the number of judge (or at least perceived to be) and this is seemingly more apparent when Turki has basically announced his favor for Fury...

Reminds me of when the camera caught Abel being told "It's a draw" before the cards got read after GGG/Canelo 1. Abel said "Draw? That's bull****. Who wants that?" and the response was "Boxing needs that" or something like that

[TyrantT316]

I'm with a 4th judge to help break any tie (unless they score a draw themselves) or obvious bad judging. However, I agree that THIS fight is NOT the fight you try this out on.

[Boxing2695]

I agree if you're gonna do it then maybe do it for a standard fight night fight and see how it looks instead of testing it out in a 60 million plus undisputed heavyweight title fight... What they need to is bring In compent judges who can score correctly and also make them give reason why they scored a fight a certain way even if majority of the people watching didn't see it that way. So many judges have effed over fighters with bad decisions and then just go on an judge fights the week after. Happened last weekend in the Arnold barboza fight which was a robbery

[MulaKO]

Fugh me
I didn’t know that Sulaiman collects a %%% from the judges
New to me and the only logical reason to have six judges
Six judges = Symphony of Destruction

You little fugh Sulaiman

[Theshotyoudontsee]

They should get rid of round limit again

No judges, no scorecards fight until someone gets ko'd or quits

I'd ban clinching as well

I'm ok with limited rounds. But I agree on the KO. They could fix the sport overnight by throwing out the scoring system and basing the win solely on knockdowns over 12 rounds and KO's. No knockdowns, no winner, draw.

Would drive the Haney's and fighters who like to just sit back and win on points out of the sport. Force guys to engage and really go at it. The sport viewership would skyrocket. Sure you'd get the occasional guy taking a dive, but they would be pretty easy to spot.

The idea of taking the "opinion" out of who won and who didn't is a great one. That alone would bring the sport back quickly. Never be done though....the promoters and sanctioning bodies need guys to overhype and deem them as superstars, because they want "stars". The sport has nosedived because of it.

The SPORT should be the draw, not hypejob stars. If a guy is going to be a star in boxing, they ought to be a knockout machine and a nightmare for other fighters. Period. As it is now, the sport is a joke vehicle for diva's.

[Roadblock]

Why 6? Why not an odd number like 5 or 7 or 21?

Should be 5, one on each side of the ring and one in a room watching a silent telecast.

[N/A]

If they are honest and competent, then you only need three.
I wouldn't mind if there was a fourth judge who's card was only used in case of a draw. Not just for Fury vs Usyk, but always.

Honest and competent referees and judges have been a rarity in this sport in the last few years. So three are enough if they are so and we don't need a fourth in case of a draw - it results in a forced victory and this WBSS principle is the most ****** ever. We can argue then why not 5?

Experimenting with 5-6 judges could be done, yes, Sulaiman can do it in some fights sanctioned by WBC. But not major ones.

I'm ok with limited rounds. But I agree on the KO. They could fix the sport overnight by throwing out the scoring system and basing the win solely on knockdowns over 12 rounds and KO's. No knockdowns, no winner, draw.

This concept exists. Can't say it's completely wrong nor it is the best, because you can often say who dominated a fight but we can often see close fights, so they better go with a draw. It's not a big drama. So about the concept - that is how they score fights in Lethwei - no KO, no winner. But it is all in contradiction with boxing rules and considering how stagnant while outdated in some aspects this sport is, major changes are unlikely to come:

• When 3 counts are performed in a single round, the fight is terminated and scored as a knockout
• When 4 counts are performed during the entire duration of the fight, the match is terminated and scored as a knockout

What they need to is bring In compent judges who can score correctly and also make them give reason why they scored a fight a certain way even if majority of the people watching didn't see it that way. So many judges have effed over fighters with bad decisions and then just go on an judge fights the week after. Happened last weekend in the Arnold barboza fight which was a robbery

Very good point. We have enough from judges who avoid answering why they give controversial results. This has to stop, they must be held accountable and if they can't justify, then involve a fourth judge's opinion over the controversial one, so we can have three. This is just an idea.

have a 3rd party pick the judges and the judges have no contact with teams before the fight. it's doable for the big fights like this. business as usual for small fights

You can corrupt a 3rd party as well. Not that this is a bad idea.