Better victory: Pac over DLH or PBF over JMM?

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  • shogunn
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    #51
    Originally posted by RodBarker
    Floyd didnt outweigh him by 10 pounds and Oscar would have got beaten badly by Floyd weighing 147 instead of 160 , and its harder to stop a strong smaller guy than a weakened big guy are you aware of that , and Floyd is not a KO puncher so add it all up and this poll is just another ****** hate poll anyway , I love Manny as a fighter but his win over Oscar is a non event because Oscar was a punching bag because he was a weight drained waif .
    that was the longest sentence Ive ever seen.

    They didnt weigh in by JMM/floyd, but by the looks of it, JMM was outweighed by 10lbs. Compare the weigh in pics of floyd at 146, youll notice he gained at least 10lbs. if youre thinking JMM and floyd were the same weight or only had a 5lb difference then Ill sell you rocks from my backyard for $100 a piece.
    Admitting floyd is not a ko puncher is agreeing that floyd and odlh wouldve went the distance at 147, similar to jmm and floyd going all 12.

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    • RodBarker
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      #52
      Originally posted by shogunn
      that was the longest sentence Ive ever seen.

      They didnt weigh in by JMM/floyd, but by the looks of it, JMM was outweighed by 10lbs. Compare the weigh in pics of floyd at 146, youll notice he gained at least 10lbs. if youre thinking JMM and floyd were the same weight or only had a 5lb difference then Ill sell you rocks from my backyard for $100 a piece.
      Admitting floyd is not a ko puncher is agreeing that floyd and odlh wouldve went the distance at 147, similar to jmm and floyd going all 12.


      If you look at the pics vs Hatton Floyd looks bigger and weighed 151 , his entire fight history does not have Floyd gaining much after weigh-in , too suggest he was 7lbs bigger than in the Hatton fight is pure speculation based on nothing and it also says Floyd gained a great deal of weight from the weigh-in something he has never done before , my guess is he weighed about 151-153 , but its something we will never know .

      Floyd not being a KO puncher does not mean he couldnt stop a weight drained Oscar , he has stopped 25 opponents even though he has bad hands ,,,,, in my opinion he never tried to stop JMM and I think it was for 2 reasons to get the rounds in because he was coasting and in no danger and he needed rounds and if he KOed JMM it would jeopardize the Pac fight .





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      Last edited by RodBarker; 10-12-2009, 02:15 AM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by RodBarker
        If you look at the pics vs Hatton Floyd looks bigger and weighed 151 , his entire fight history does not have Floyd gaining much after weigh-in , too suggest he was 7lbs bigger than in the Hatton fight is pure speculation based on nothing and it also says Floyd gained a great deal of weight from the weigh-in something he has never done before , my guess is he weighed about 151-153 , but its something we will never know .

        Floyd not being a KO puncher does not mean he couldnt stop a weight drained Oscar , he has stopped 25 opponents even though he has bad hands ,,,,, in my opinion he never tried to stop JMM and I think it was for 2 reasons to get the rounds in because he was coasting and in no danger and he needed rounds and if he KOed JMM it would jeopardize the Pac fight .





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        even with those bad angles, floyd still looks bigger than he did vs JMM. I have the clip saved, floyd looks skinnier vs hatton than he did vs JMM. If he weighed 153 vs hatton, then he was at least 160 vs JMM.

        the last sentence, I have no idea what that means, and Im not sure if it makes any sense. floyd didnt KO JMM because he didnt want to, its jsut he couldnt. A fight with pac, I dont know how that fits in at all. I think Ive heard every excuse now, this one is a new, and odd one.

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        • RodBarker
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          #54
          Originally posted by shogunn
          even with those bad angles, floyd still looks bigger than he did vs JMM. I have the clip saved, floyd looks skinnier vs hatton than he did vs JMM. If he weighed 153 vs hatton, then he was at least 160 vs JMM.

          the last sentence, I have no idea what that means, and Im not sure if it makes any sense. floyd didnt KO JMM because he didnt want to, its jsut he couldnt. A fight with pac, I dont know how that fits in at all. I think Ive heard every excuse now, this one is a new, and odd one.
          Size is relative to comparing , how can you compare 2 pics of Floyd saying he looks bigger against JMM when JMM is smaller than Hatton yet the size difference looks in both pics compared to the known opponent looks the same , makes no sense what your trying to spin , your saying from weigh-in to fight Floyd put on 12-14 pounds , bull**** , he has never put on that sort of weight since moving to 140 and above the most he put on was 5 pounds , recorded history just does not go along with what your trying to spin .

          I will make the last sentence easier for you , are you saying Floyd went all out to stop JMM , looked like he carried him to me and never got out of first gear .
          Last edited by RodBarker; 10-12-2009, 03:40 AM.

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          • Clyde Barrow
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            #55
            DLH was the shameless cherrypicker in the Pac-DLH fight. PBF was the shameless cherrypicker in the PBF-JMM fight. Clearly Pac's victory was more impressive.

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            • Matt Marvelous
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              #56
              Originally posted by RodBarker
              If you look at the pics vs Hatton Floyd looks bigger and weighed 151 , his entire fight history does not have Floyd gaining much after weigh-in , too suggest he was 7lbs bigger than in the Hatton fight is pure speculation based on nothing and it also says Floyd gained a great deal of weight from the weigh-in something he has never done before , my guess is he weighed about 151-153 , but its something we will never know .

              Floyd not being a KO puncher does not mean he couldnt stop a weight drained Oscar , he has stopped 25 opponents even though he has bad hands ,,,,, in my opinion he never tried to stop JMM and I think it was for 2 reasons to get the rounds in because he was coasting and in no danger and he needed rounds and if he KOed JMM it would jeopardize the Pac fight .



              Explain how it would have jeopardized a Pacquiao fight if Mayweather had KO'd Marquez.

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              • PensionKiller
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                #57
                Both overrated. No vote

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                • shogunn
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by RodBarker
                  Size is relative to comparing , how can you compare 2 pics of Floyd saying he looks bigger against JMM when JMM is smaller than Hatton yet the size difference looks in both pics compared to the known opponent looks the same , makes no sense what your trying to spin , your saying from weigh-in to fight Floyd put on 12-14 pounds , bull**** , he has never put on that sort of weight since moving to 140 and above the most he put on was 5 pounds , recorded history just does not go along with what your trying to spin .

                  I will make the last sentence easier for you , are you saying Floyd went all out to stop JMM , looked like he carried him to me and never got out of first gear .
                  I just told you I have the hatton fight saved. I watched a minute of it, and clearly floyd is bigger than he was against JMM. everyone noticed it, except for some reason floyd fans.

                  You dont know the recorded history either, because he stopped weighing in against ODLH. Other than the lie that he tells you. If floyd is always at 150, then why couldnt he cut to 144? He coudlnt lose 6lbs in 5 months? who says he's always been at 150. He didnt weigh in at ODLH, and I cant find anything of him weighing in at Hatton.

                  And speaking of spin, you still never explained why Floyd KO'ing JMM would jeopardize a fight with Manny. Other people are wondering the same

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                  • alexpz
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                    #59
                    Ofcourse Pac over Oscar.. Its none debatable...

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                    • RodBarker
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Matt Marvelous
                      Explain how it would have jeopardized a Pacquiao fight if Mayweather had KO'd Marquez.
                      Because Pac has gone life and death with JMM twice and it was bad enough to whitewash JMM the way Floyd did and on top a Mill PPV too stop him as well , you think that official people associated to Pac dont notice this stuff , you guys can spin all the Floyd hate you like , Roach and Arum know how good he is and a KO would make Floyds negotiations that much tougher , but then again I dont think Roach feels Floyd went all out for a KO he seen how much was in reserve .

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