Better victory: Pac over DLH or PBF over JMM?

[Ragpalizer]

Manny !

For starters, the fact remains it was ODLH who cherry picked Pac. Golden Boy chose the weight and the man. So there is no sense in arguing that ODLH was washed up.

On the other hand, JMM challenged PBF in a weight where he has never fought before. Bad mistake. But what loses the credibility of a PBF victory is that Floyd did not make the weight and couldn't dispatch the smaller JMM.

Arguments saying that Pac had a hard time against JMM whereas PBF just coasted over the Mexican is useless.

Pac and JMM fought at the featherweight and super featherweight, divisions where JMM is pretty much comfortable.
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[jrosales13]

Understatement of the year mate , any good fighter would have flogged ODH in the condition he was in , what did Roach say after hearing he gained 2 pounds , ODH is good for 2 rounds , but its in front of your face so I guess punching a bag empresses some more than an exhibition of skills , Floyd gave Oscar 16 pounds , dont you think that would be a different Oscar , thats the Oscar I would have liked Manny to fight be a lot closer I feel .

Any top 20 WW. would of destroyd that version of JMM that Floyd fought.

[MaD RoBoT]

And Pacman beat Oscar at WW as well. A division Oscar did not fight in 7 years

...and Pac comin from lightweight, jumping 2 divisions

[Pretty Boy Flaw]

...and Pac comin from lightweight, skipping 2 divisions

He only skipped one division NOT 2 Duckman skipped 140 only.
Pacman at 130 fight night weighs the nearly same 147 Oscar

[RodBarker]

Any top 20 WW. would of destroyd that version of JMM that Floyd fought.

Possibly , maybe not , nothing was physically wrong with JMM , thats why its always safer going up in weight than going down , Oscar was like a sick man and that makes a lot of difference in this , JMM was stronger than he has ever been while Oscar was weaker than he has ever been .

[Bhopreign]

Wow is this really a debate? Roach observed Oscar getting an IV on the morning of the fight. The version of Oscar that Floyd fought I dont think Pac would beat, Oscar was well in excess of 160 that night. If Floyd fought the Oscar Pac fought I think it would be Gatti-ish.

[Bretty Poy32]

He only skipped one division NOT 2 Duckman skipped 140 only.
Pacman at 130 fight night weighs the nearly same 147 Oscar

a lot of boxers gains more than 10 lbs from dehydration

[shogunn]

Wow is this really a debate? Roach observed Oscar getting an IV on the morning of the fight. The version of Oscar that Floyd fought I dont think Pac would beat, Oscar was well in excess of 160 that night. If Floyd fought the Oscar Pac fought I think it would be Gatti-ish.

fail and a liar. Roach never saw them put IVs in oscar, he wasnt training him and they wouldnt be showing his opponents trainer such a thing. Roach said he thought he saw IV marks in oscar when they were in the ring.


Floyd wouldve taken 10 steps back for every jab oscar wouldve thrown at him at 147, and just try to potshot all night. Floyd outweighed JMM by 10+lbs and couldnt take him out.

ODLH vs floyd at 147 wouldve went to a decision with oscar not having a scratch on him.

[RodBarker]

fail and a liar. Roach never saw them put IVs in oscar, he wasnt training him and they wouldnt be showing his opponents trainer such a thing. Roach said he thought he saw IV marks in oscar when they were in the ring.


Floyd wouldve taken 10 steps back for every jab oscar wouldve thrown at him at 147, and just try to potshot all night. Floyd outweighed JMM by 10+lbs and couldnt take him out.

ODLH vs floyd at 147 wouldve went to a decision with oscar not having a scratch on him.

Floyd didnt outweigh him by 10 pounds and Oscar would have got beaten badly by Floyd weighing 147 instead of 160 , and its harder to stop a strong smaller guy than a weakened big guy are you aware of that , and Floyd is not a KO puncher so add it all up and this poll is just another ****** hate poll anyway , I love Manny as a fighter but his win over Oscar is a non event because Oscar was a punching bag because he was a weight drained waif .

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Mayweather-Marquez...

Floyd-JMM= Marquez jumps up almost 2 weightclasses...Floyd almost a Jr. Middleweight

DLH-Pac= DLH is washed up, moves down a weightclass and is weight drained...Pac moves up 2 weightclasses...

If Marquez was shot I'd give it to Pac-DLH...