Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Will Have To Be At His Best If He Is To Fend Off Oleksandr Usyk On May 18

[hugh grant]

The level fury needs to be to best usyk, fury might never have reached that level yet. The one that best wlad might not be enough.

[Roberto Vasquez]

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Fury is 35 years old and sits atop the heavyweight division.
Hopkins was 36 when he beat Trinidad and parlayed that into an ATG status.
Fury is has several fights and only needs to beat Usyk and AJ to be considered the greatest of his era. Tack on three or four more fights and the ATG moniker kicks in.

If Fury does beat Usyk once he will retire. We saw that with Wlad. He kept mocking Wlad saying he wouldn't take the rematch. As soon as Wald took it - Fury "retired"

You are still in that mindset where a fighter can remain unbeaten.

Look at Fury's record - that's why he is unbeaten. TWO top-10 guys in the last 8 years. Uysk will be his third. No wonder he looked bad against Ngannou - no practice against top guys. Fury almost lost to Wilder twice - fair enough Wilder is a top fighter. And he should have lost to McDermott and he struggled against Wallin. Fury is just a very good fighter - not a special one. If he was special he wouldn't have such a poor record of taking fights

[Oregonian]

If Fury does beat Usyk once he will retire. We saw that with Wlad. He kept mocking Wlad saying he wouldn't take the rematch. As soon as Wald took it - Fury "retired"

You are still in that mindset where a fighter can remain unbeaten.

Look at Fury's record - that's why he is unbeaten. TWO top-10 guys in the last 8 years. Uysk will be his third. No wonder he looked bad against Ngannou - no practice against top guys. Fury almost lost to Wilder twice - fair enough Wilder is a top fighter. And he should have lost to McDermott and he struggled against Wallin. Fury is just a very good fighter - not a special one. If he was special he wouldn't have such a poor record of taking fights

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Until Fury retires, there is no need to speculate. Also, why would you use a no rematch as the reason a fighter is ducking someone?
Fury beat Wladimir. Period.

Thats like saying Floyd ducked Oscar, Manny, Cotto, Marquez, Guerrero and Canelo because he didn’t rematch them. They all wanted a rematch.

[PRINCEKOOL]

If Fury does beat Usyk once he will retire. We saw that with Wlad. He kept mocking Wlad saying he wouldn't take the rematch. As soon as Wald took it - Fury "retired"

You are still in that mindset where a fighter can remain unbeaten.

Look at Fury's record - that's why he is unbeaten. TWO top-10 guys in the last 8 years. Uysk will be his third. No wonder he looked bad against Ngannou - no practice against top guys. Fury almost lost to Wilder twice - fair enough Wilder is a top fighter. And he should have lost to McDermott and he struggled against Wallin. Fury is just a very good fighter - not a special one. If he was special he wouldn't have such a poor record of taking fights

Tyson Fury has been managed and promoted excellently, I have always believe in this 'If the main goal of a promoter, is to keep their fighter unbeaten and winning. Then Fury has definitively been promoted better than Anthony Joshua'.

It was David Price who stated 'Sometimes in a fighters career? It is about knowing when to make fights, and also when to avoid fights'.

Price said this during a interview were? He claimed outright that Tyson Fury avoided fighting him 'Fury vacated his British and Commonwealth titles, instead of potentially making a big domestic fight with David Price'.

Tyson Fury never turned up for his rematch vs Wladimir Kiltscko, he avoided David Price, he chose to fight Deontay Wilder over Anthony Joshua 'Anyone who knows anything about boxing, knows that Joshua stylistically was the more difficult fight for Tyson Fury. Both Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury, chose to fight each other because they believed it was the stylistically easier fight for them in comparison to fighting Anthony Joshua at that time in their careers'.

Note: I have also always stated that Tyson Fury, deep down does not like being a Champion. Because when you become a World Champion, it is more difficult for a fighter to craft their own path through the division 'As a Champion, there are tenants and requirements which you must honour' I.E Fighting your mandatories, fighting top contenders, taking on all comers. And of course those are the area's where Tyson Fury in my observation, has not been a great Champion.

It has been extremely difficult for Tyson Fury's nearest competition to actually fight him continually throughout his career, Deontay Wilder had to force the rematch with Fury 'Those are the facts of boxing history, there would be no trilogy if it was not for Deontay Wilder's ambition to defend his honor as a Champion'.

Tyson Fury is a great fighter, and he does have in terms of historical significance have two great wins on his resume 'But overall I don't rate him highly as a Champion'.

If people check my posts, I have already posted the statistics of Fury career 'Fury is a great fighter, but he has not been a great World Heavyweight Champion'.

Tyson Fury is actually a inexperience fighter at Elite and World level boxing '90% of Fury's career has been fought at Domestic and European level. Tyson Fury has fought 4 Elite to World Level Heavyweights in his entire career, but it is debatably? On whether Dillian Whyte was still a World level fighter by the time Fury got to him'.

The last time Tyson Fury fought at Elite level skill for skill, was vs Wladimir Kiltschko almost 9 years ago 'Deontay Wilder was a elite level fight in terms of the magnitude of the event and challenge. But Wilder technically in terms of his pure boxing skills, is not a elite level boxer' This is no disrespect to Deontay Wilder, because he has been one of the three Heavyweight mountains of this era.

I have always highlighted this statistics within Fury's career 'It has been almost 9 years since he has fought at elite level skill for skill, Oleksandr Uysk is that level of fighter'.

I personally think Tyson Fury will turn up vs Oleksandr Uysk and at the least be competitive 'Fury whenever it has been demanded of him to step up, he has shown that he has a great clutch game'.

But there is a definitive potential, that on fight night vs Oleksandr Uysk 'It may become very apparent real quick, that Tyson Fury is inexperienced at fighting at Elite and World Level skill for skill' etc.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Both guys are overrated at this point.

Fury almost lost to a f.ucking UFC guy. Last Fury`s true contender fight is Whyte 2 years ago.

Usyk was actually knocked out by a body shot against Dubois.

This fight is overrated in terms of being undisputed, because there is a big question mark if they are even the best in division.

[JakeTheBoxer]

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Until Fury retires, there is no need to speculate. Also, why would you use a no rematch as the reason a fighter is ducking someone?
Fury beat Wladimir. Period.

Thats like saying Floyd ducked Oscar, Manny, Cotto, Marquez, Guerrero and Canelo because he didn’t rematch them. They all wanted a rematch.

Fury beat Wlad 8,5 years ago. Since than he fought TWO top 10 guys. Wilder and Whyte.

[BustedKnuckles]

Fury and Wilder are unlikeable but the draft dodger Usyk, you like?

Odd

Dude, whay's your vendetta? Childish name calling just shows it might be a little too personal for you.

Have you ever served in the military? And were you there next to Usyk, whatever his involvement was? Even Elivis served in the military? In a foxhole tho? Doubtful. They use guys like that for morale. End of story. Don't be salty.

[Oregonian]

Fury beat Wlad 8,5 years ago. Since than he fought TWO top 10 guys. Wilder and Whyte.

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Isn’t there context to that? AJ got beat by Ruiz and then by Usyk.
After Usyk, it will be AJ

[Roberto Vasquez]

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Until Fury retires, there is no need to speculate. Also, why would you use a no rematch as the reason a fighter is ducking someone?
Fury beat Wladimir. Period.

Thats like saying Floyd ducked Oscar, Manny, Cotto, Marquez, Guerrero and Canelo because he didn’t rematch them. They all wanted a rematch.

Fury was *contracted* to fight Wlad in the rematch. How more obvious of a duck do you need? If you add to that the PED ban at the same time. You see an insecure weak fighter

Floyd ducked a ton of people (inc that weak Canelo duck) But even so his record is still 1000% better than Fury's

[Oregonian]

Fury was *contracted* to fight Wlad in the rematch. How more obvious of a duck do you need? If you add to that the PED ban at the same time. You see an insecure weak fighter

Floyd ducked a ton of people (inc that weak Canelo duck) But even so his record is still 1000% better than Fury's

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How exactly did Floyd duck Canelo when he beat him?
He’s also been accused of ducking Cotto, Hatton, Oscar, Mosley, and Guerrero after beating them. Your logic makes zero sense

I looked up Fury’s rematch with Wlad so I bc will give you that. You are correct. For whatever reason, Fury chose not to honor the rematch.