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  • #71
    Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

    Who is ALL? I think your are quoting Fury you fan boy.
    Every top level fighter and/or athlete.

    “But, but, but… dA gUyZ i liKE r cLeEn”

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    • #72
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

      I dont the relevance.

      Taking PEDs recreationally has no bearing on your thoughts on athletes taking it and in a sport where its banned.

      I’ve taken for decades, still would if I could. That doesnt the fact that my stance is fighters should not be taking them, in a sport where its banned but secondly because of the damage you can do to your opponent on a potential uneven playing field.

      RJGOAT is from the UK, where PEDs are legal to take recreationally. So I dont see the issue there. Hypothetically speaking that is, Im sure he doesnt take anything but if he did so what?
      The vast majority of posters have very little understanding of what PED’s are/do.

      They think they turn you into Superman, or Pop Eye after a can of spinach. It’s laughable really.
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      • #73
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

        The vast majority of posters have very little understanding of what PED’s are/do.

        They think they turn you into Superman, or Pop Eye after a can of spinach. It’s laughable really.
        Laughable is an understatement. It’s mind blowing. I don’t understand why someone would comment on something they have no understanding of, especially with authority. It’s quite a common theme on here. Not talking about the posters in this thread per say but in general.

        I’ve had someone call me a “cheat” on here before because I used PEDs when I was a bodybuilding……in the sport where PED use is not only allowed but essentially a mandatory requirement. It’s insane.

        And you are right on your second point, people think taking gear will turn you into Dorian Yates. When the reality is the vast majority of people who take gear just look normal. A large % of people in your local gym use some kind of PED, in bodybuilding gyms I’d say closer to 90%.

        Genetics will always be the key when it comes to muscle and strength gain, doesn’t matter if you blast gear or not. Some people can blast cycles for years and will never look elite, Infact that’s most people.
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        • #74
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

          I dont the relevance.

          Taking PEDs recreationally has no bearing on your thoughts on athletes taking it and in a sport where its banned.

          I’ve taken for decades, still would if I could. That doesnt the fact that my stance is fighters should not be taking them, in a sport where its banned but secondly because of the damage you can do to your opponent on a potential uneven playing field.

          RJGOAT is from the UK, where PEDs are legal to take recreationally. So I dont see the issue there. Hypothetically speaking that is, Im sure he doesnt take anything but if he did so what?
          I think your talking nonsense again, peds are considered a class C in the U.K .breaking the law .

          I used that guy bc I refuse to believe he’s looking anything like an athlete based on my conversations with him .

          I don’t condone steroids but in fact I always told my opponents to take them against me I’m just built different…just saying l
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          • #75
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

            Laughable is an understatement. It’s mind blowing. I don’t understand why someone would comment on something they have no understanding of, especially with authority. It’s quite a common theme on here. Not talking about the posters in this thread per say but in general.

            I’ve had someone call me a “cheat” on here before because I used PEDs when I was a bodybuilding……in the sport where PED use is not only allowed but essentially a mandatory requirement. It’s insane.

            And you are right on your second point, people think taking gear will turn you into Dorian Yates. When the reality is the vast majority of people who take gear just look normal. A large % of people in your local gym use some kind of PED, in bodybuilding gyms I’d say closer to 90%.

            Genetics will always be the key when it comes to muscle and strength gain, doesn’t matter if you blast gear or not. Some people can blast cycles for years and will never look elite, Infact that’s most people.
            I've done natural bodybuilding for 15 years on and off, I've trained with people on gear, naturals, naturals who have started taking gear.

            Even just one cycle of Test-E will take a natural athlete beyond what they could achieve naturally, by a noticeable margin.

            Of course, if someone takes gear, trains like **** and eats like **** they aren't going to turn into Mr olympia.

            But downplaying the benefits of steroids is typical of a long term steroid user "oh they don't do much, it was all my effort really"

            Er... No, you are to be applauded by your effort but that same effort applied if you were natural wouldn't have close to the same results, even just something small like retaining more energy on a cut when enhanced makes a HUGE difference.

            and you can kid yourself on that but you won't kid me.

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            Last edited by Atypicalbrit; 04-13-2024, 09:01 PM.
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            • #76
              Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

              I think your talking nonsense again, peds are considered a class C in the U.K .breaking the law .

              I used that guy bc I refuse to believe he’s looking anything like an athlete based on my conversations with him .

              I don’t condone steroids but in fact I always told my opponents to take them against me I’m just built different…just saying l
              Wrong. It is legal to posses PEDs in the UK. It is illegal to supply. Look it up.

              I don’t condone steroids either, in a sport where it’s banned.

              I dont see how using them for personal use would have any bearing on that.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

                I think your talking nonsense again, peds are considered a class C in the U.K .breaking the law .

                I used that guy bc I refuse to believe he’s looking anything like an athlete based on my conversations with him .

                I don’t condone steroids but in fact I always told my opponents to take them against me I’m just built different…just saying l
                Do your imaginary opponents take imaginary steroids?

                Also have you set a date for the BKFC debut yet?

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post

                  I've done natural bodybuilding for 15 years on and off, I've trained with people on gear, naturals, naturals who have started taking gear.

                  Even just one cycle of Test-E will take a natural athlete beyond what they could achieve naturally, by a noticeable margin.

                  Of course, if someone takes gear, trains like **** and eats like **** they aren't going to turn into Mr olympia.

                  But downplaying the benefits of steroids is typical of a long term steroid user "oh they don't do much, it was all my effort really"

                  Er... No, you are to be applauded by your effort but that same effort applied if you were natural wouldn't have close to the same results, even just something small like retaining more energy on a cut when enhanced makes a HUGE difference.

                  and you can kid yourself on that but you won't kid me.

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                  Of course. Im not dis*****g that. You are misreading what Ive said. I would never downplay the benefits of PEDs, quite the opposite.

                  PEDs will enhance your performance drastically. That is a fact. They are what they say on the tin, they exchange your performance in every area.

                  So someone like you say, who is a natural body builder for 15 years, and has likely reached or is close to his natural genetic potential, and just the simple fact you have competed on stage as a Natural body builder tells me you have atleast good genetics, PEDs would take you through the roof aesthetically.

                  What you are claiming of me is the literal opposite. I am not gifted genetically, I’m around average, perhaps slightly above average. I got my pro card by BLASTING gear and without it I would never have come close to it and it doesnt matter how much gear I did I could never even come any where close to qualifying for an Olympia. Which is entirely my point. Gear is great, it will take an average man to a man whos well above average and perhaps further. But you cant be elite without being gifted with things, no matter how much gear you do you cant be Dorian Yates or Phil Heath or Ronnie Coleman without gifted genetics. They are the 1% for a reason.

                  Despite that, gear will only take you as far as your potential will allow you. You have those people mentioend, you have the others in the pool, and you have everyone else. Most people today taking gear, you wouldnt even realise they are taking it. Some people just arent very receptive to it. Some people are extremely receptive to it.
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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                    Wrong. It is legal to posses PEDs in the UK. It is illegal to supply. Look it up.

                    I don’t condone steroids either, in a sport where it’s banned.

                    I dont see how using them for personal use would have any bearing on that.
                    Again you must be confusing me with an idiot ? You said it was legal to take them in the U.K not possessing or distributing them , try again .

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

                      Do your imaginary opponents take imaginary steroids?

                      Also have you set a date for the BKFC debut yet?
                      I tell everyone to take them against me not just in fighting but arm wrestling where I’m the 10% who doesn’t take them even if it’s legal in the sport bc it’s not my thing I’m not a weak person unlike you .

                      You must notice your the beta male in here I’m referring to ? Let me know when your in the states , you say you travel to I bet you wont do it ? In fact every one on here knows you won’t bc you might end end up in a hospital based on what I look like . Lol
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