How many roid cycles has Fury done since the Ngannou fight?

[BoxOfficer]

He said this. In typical Fury fashion he lacks the emotional maturity to simply take responsibility for his own behaviour. The reason the video was captured this way is that he obviously requested iFL take it down so the original is no longer available.

How can anybody defend this. It would take one hell of a fan.

[dan-b]

He’s obviously guilty, every top level fighter is juicing.

What irks me about that video is his unwillingness to take responsibility for his own behaviour, which is typical for someone as emotionally immature as Tyson Fury.

[Dr. Z]

Fanboys like you are hilarious, they’re all using PED’s. You’re so uneducated.

Who is ALL? I think your are quoting Fury you fan boy.

[IronDanHamza]

Ok, ok, I get it - you are gonna contradict yourself over and over just for the argue but it is degrading in content, so I won't waste any more time. Examples: in a previous post you said micro-dosing is a way to hide a drug, now you say it can lead to adverse results. You also say it is easy to mask a drug (even with water, haha), yet you claim we can't suspect someone if he never tested positive - why, it is easy to hide, remember?

Whatever you say, UKADA has a statement I quoted. What really happened only he knows and you can never prove he did it intentionally. But if an agency wants to catch you it is easy because of the life of a drug in your system combined with frequent testing - blood and urine.

Contradiction where?

Yes Microdosing is a technique used to hide PEDs in your system, but it doesnt always work. You may miss time it, you may get unlucky with drug test timing. There is a plethora of reasons. Thats why someone Microdosing can also test positive, Infact thats not uncommon for those that do test positive.

Why would you laugh at the idea of water masking PEDs? Thats literally the most effective way of doing it, via an IV. Thats why IVs are banned in most sports because theyre used to flush your system of PEDs.

Yes it’s easy to hide, but if they havent tested positive then we have no data to suspect them. Doesnt mean they’re not, but it means they’ve never had them in your system to the point of being detected. You cant compare that to someone that has. Thats just obvious.

Thats UKADs view but it doesnt make it true. It cannot be proven.

[IronDanHamza]

Fury has been dirty in and out of the ring. He is a part time con man who built his rep on 39 year old Wlad, and milked the punch drunk fans in a trilogy with a big fraud called Wilder.

You're a big fan of his? You're a big fan of Roy Jones too. Hopefully you are not on ROIDS as they were / are.

Why would you hope that? Why would it matter?

[Dr. Z]

Why would you hope that? Why would it matter?

Not really but it would explain why RJJ likes Fury,

[IronDanHamza]

Not really but it would explain why RJJ likes Fury,

How?

Just because someone uses PEDs recreationally doesn’t mean that means they’re going to support a fighter using PEDs which is against the rules of the sport.

[juggernaut666]

How?

Just because someone uses PEDs recreationally doesn’t mean that means they’re going to support a fighter using PEDs which is against the rules of the sport.

No but more then likely they will and justify it ,in this forums case I find it hard to believe you’ll get a few on here that look like they take steroids, most Fury fans sound like beta males not alpha ones they’ll be the first to accuse someone on being on them on here the same ones acknowledge of Fury taking them . I speak from experience. Lol

[crimsonfalcon07]

You've spent most of your time talking past one another. It's fascinating to observe and very common with internet interactions.

I haven't talked past him at all. I made one simple point, which is that one guy has tested positive before, and the other has not, so there's fact based reasons to doubt one more than the other. I'm not making claims to how much more, I'm not talking about what he might or might not be on now, I'm not talking about whether he did it deliberately or not. I'm not talking about Wlad, or Ngannou. All the extra crap has come from filth_root manufacturing extra stuff to disguise his avoidance of the issue. Textbook red herring and straw man logical fallacies.

Is ANY facet of nandrolone relevant to whether or not he tested positive in the past? Does any detail about nandrolone change the literal fact that he failed two tests in the past, and has admitted using banned substances?

What does Ngannou have to do with whether it's more reasonable to suspect Fury than Usyk?

The fraud keeps making up things that I never said, adding extra stuff to the points I did make, etc.

Fury has a past history of using banned substances. Usyk does not.

Is it possible? Sure. But that's not proven. That's pure supposition. And doesn't change the fact that it is logically valid to suspect Fury more so than Usyk. I don't mind if people want to suspect every pro athlete ever, whether there's evidence or not. But there is, by definition, more grounds to suspect the ones who have proven to have failed drug testing.

And give me a break about "Fury hasn't tested positive for this fight." He hasn't tested AT ALL for this fight.

If every pro athlete is on the sauce, then he's certainly on PEDs, which doesn't in any way diminish the point that it's reasonable to suspect him of being on PEDs. Not only does that not weaken the argument, it logically guarantees it.

[IronDanHamza]

No but more then likely they will and justify it ,in this forums case I find it hard to believe you’ll get a few on here that look like they take steroids, most Fury fans sound like beta males not alpha ones they’ll be the first to accuse someone on being on them on here the same ones acknowledge of Fury taking them . I speak from experience. Lol

I dont the relevance.

Taking PEDs recreationally has no bearing on your thoughts on athletes taking it and in a sport where its banned.

I’ve taken for decades, still would if I could. That doesnt the fact that my stance is fighters should not be taking them, in a sport where its banned but secondly because of the damage you can do to your opponent on a potential uneven playing field.

RJGOAT is from the UK, where PEDs are legal to take recreationally. So I dont see the issue there. Hypothetically speaking that is, Im sure he doesnt take anything but if he did so what?