How many roid cycles has Fury done since the Ngannou fight?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Why ask a loaded question like that? How can he agree with something that's a supposition to begin with?

Supposition or common sense?

It’s beyond obvious, if you do your research.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

NO, I think the promoters pet type of fighters, the men who make or make millions are/were on PED's. ( Holyfield, Toney, Jones, and Fury ). The vast majority is not. They better stay clean.

Yeah it’s only those guys. Just like it was only Lance Armstrong, only the Russians, only Just Gatlin, etc etc…

“My favourite fighters are all clean doe”.

[dan-b]

Supposition or common sense?

It’s beyond obvious, if you do your research.

What has your "research" consisted of?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

What has your "research" consisted of?

It’s not my research, I’m in no way an expert regarding PED’s, it’s merely a subject I have a keen interest in and there’s clearly a major doping problem which is consistent across all high level sport.

You’re talking about supposition whilst making a thread suggesting Fury is in the midst of several “roid cycles” and you’re even trying to suggest what drugs he’s using.

I might be going out on a limb here, but I’d assume you’re not involved in his camp and I’d also assume you’re not employed as a doctor and/or have a Ph.D. in chemistry. So where has all this come from?

I think you’re a good poster man, but I don’t think you know what you’re talking about in regard to PED’s- 99.9% of posters don’t, me included.

I also think you’re dislike for Fury (which is understandable as he’s become a whiny attention wh*re recently) is your main motivation for making this thread.

[dan-b]

It’s not my research, I’m in no way an expert regarding PED’s, it’s merely a subject I have a keen interest in and there’s clearly a major doping problem which is consistent across all high level sport.

You’re talking about supposition whilst making a thread suggesting Fury is in the midst of several “roid cycles” and you’re even trying to suggest what drugs he’s using.

I might be going out on a limb here, but I’d assume you’re not involved in his camp and I’d also assume you’re not employed as a doctor and/or have a Ph.D. in chemistry. So where has all this come from?

I think you’re a good poster man, but I don’t think you know what you’re talking about in regard to PED’s- 99.9% of posters don’t, me included.

I also think you’re dislike for Fury (which is understandable as he’s become a whiny attention wh*re recently) is your main motivation for making this thread.

That's fine. I just tend to bristle when people claim to have done "research" or imply that others should do some, when often that "research" is actually just the consumption of internet content. Fairly harmless when it comes to boxing, less so when there's a serious public health situation...

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

That's fine. I just tend to bristle when people claim to have done "research" or imply that others should do some, when often that "research" is actually just the consumption of internet content. Fairly harmless when it comes to boxing, less so when there's a serious public health situation...

I wasn’t trying to imply I’ve conducted research, I’ve only ever read a couple books, watched documentaries like Icarus and stuff like that, but the information is out there. If you look at the performance of athletes, they’re getting faster, stronger, endurance and intensity are increasing etc. Whether it be athletics, swimming, football, basketball etc and there is data to support that whether it be split times, km covered per game and so on. Is evolution really working that fast or is performance being enhanced?

I’ve noticed a common theme in this thread is fighter I don’t like: “yeah he takes PED’s”, but the fighter I like: “nah he’s clean”. When in reality the only difference between a lot of fighters is one was ****** enough to get caught.

[dan-b]

I wasn’t trying to imply I’ve conducted research, I’ve only ever read a couple books, watched documentaries like Icarus and stuff like that, but the information is out there. If you look at the performance of athletes, they’re getting faster, stronger, endurance and intensity are increasing etc. Whether it be athletics, swimming, football, basketball etc and there is data to support that whether it be split times, km covered per game and so on. Is evolution really working that fast or is performance being enhanced?

I’ve noticed a common theme in this thread is fighter I don’t like: “yeah he takes PED’s”, but the fighter I like: “nah he’s clean”. When in reality the only difference between a lot of fighters is one was ****** enough to get caught.

It's an interesting subject for sure. I used to follow that Anabolic Doc on YouTube who treats people suffering the after effects of steroid abuse (hypogonadism mostly). He wrote a book "America on Steroids" I've been meaning to read.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

It's an interesting subject for sure. I used to follow that Anabolic Doc on YouTube who treats people suffering the after effects of steroid abuse (hypogonadism mostly). He wrote a book "America on Steroids" I've been meaning to read.

Yeah very interesting, I was a big wrestling fan growing up and there was the massive steroid scandal in the 90’s which is what first introduced me into it.

The Rodchenkov Affair is the best book I’ve read on it, it’s written by the doctor/whistleblower behind the Russian state-sponsored scandal.

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah very interesting, I was a big wrestling fan growing up and there was the massive steroid scandal in the 90’s which is what first introduced me into it.

The Rodchenkov Affair is the best book I’ve read on it, it’s written by the doctor/whistleblower behind the Russian state-sponsored scandal.

Most athletes are using something, that goes without saying.

Like I said, most people in your local gym are using let alone elite athletes.

[juggernaut666]

This is actually an interesting observation. The alpha/beta distinction has no basis in reality but, regardless, many men of a certain demographic (age 18-40; low educational attainment) believe it does. By their own standards they behave like betas, simping on the internet for perceived strongmen like Tyson Fury and Andrew Tate. Reason: they behave like obnoxious *******s in public in a way their followers are far too timid to. E.g. denium

Deniums A little biatch .

here’s what a real fighter looks like below .