Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: When Cruiserweights Step Up, They're Usually Found Wanting

[thack]

Exactly. Greedy Belly has milked his victories vs a weak and limited one-trick pony Wilder to the fullest. Usyk is going to expose him once again again.He ran away from his contractual agreed rematch after he has won a boring hugfest vs Wlad. This guy is by far the most overrated and overhyped boxer in the history of the sport.

You'd better hope , beyond hope that Fury doesn't do a number on him , otherwise it's back under that Little Rock!

[jackblack008]

Who is the backup in case he gets gets an eye cut 5 days before the fight

[leebatt]

............ he says never-heard-of-Evander-Holyfieldingly......

[JakeTheBoxer]

Actually I agree with Tyson here. Klitschkos were betaing cruiserweights like nothing. Mormeck, Haye, Adamek.

The problem is, I think usyk is better boxer than Fury. Elite smaller boxer can beat a bigger boxer that is a little worse. No problem.

[billeau2]

I get that Fury pops off with ridiculous comments at times, but did everyone here read this specific article. He was rather effusive in his praise of Usyk.

Fury said of Usyk. “I respect him as a man and as a fighter. Anyone would have to respect the man’s achievements. He’s the unified heavyweight champion and the undisputed cruiserweight champion."

Later citing the weight difference as being a legitimate advantage, "We have weight divisions for a reason. When the cruiserweights step up to the big boys, they are usually found wanting. You can beat the average big ones, but you can’t beat the elite big ones because size really matters,” said Fury.

Yep. Historically Fury's point is correct. To me the question is does fury have an elite fight left in him? It is Fury's fight to lose.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Oleksandr Uysk has beaten Anthony Joshua twice, David Haye beat Nikola Valuev in a fight were he was out weighed by 98 pounds, 7 stone in mass, Evander Holyfield beat Rid**** Bowe in their rematch 'Bowe vs Holyfield was the greatest Heavyweight trilogy since Frazier vs Ali'.

The issue with Tyson Fury's statement is? That skill for skill, Tyson Fury is not the best fighter Oleksandr Uysk has fought in his career 'And he is also not the best athlete'.

Usyk skill for skill has most likely during his cruiserweight career fought skill for skill superior fighters to Tyson Fury 'And there is even a debate, that already in his Heavyweight career he has fought a Super Heavyweight who for sure? Is superior than Tyson Fury in certain area's of his game'.

Anthony Joshua is clearly superior to Tyson Fury in multiple aspects of his game 'Greater more proven punching power, superior combination puncher, in comparison to Fury? Joshua innately does not produce a high number of unforced technical errors. Anthony Joshua in terms of being is a more fundamentally sound and technically correct fighter'.

For many years there has been a narrative promoted in boxing, that Tyson Fury's brute strength is elite 'I have never rated Fury's brute strength as elite'. We have never seen Tyson Fury bull another top level Super Heavyweight'.

Whenever Fury has fought any top level Super Heavyweight on the foot front, or not even top level 'Solid level Super Heavyweight, he has most of the time been ****** about in those fights'.

Tyson Fury was battered by Derek Chisora in their first fight 'Fury fought Chisora head on in that fight'. Fury was also busted up real good vs Wallin.

Historically Fury has only ever bulled forward vs fighters who he out weighed by 30 to 40 + pounds 'Wilder and USS Cunningham. And those are the fights, which people reference to rate Fury's brute strength'.

Anthony Joshua brute strength is superior Tyson Fury's. A major talking point before Ngannou vs Joshua was 'That people were cautioning Joshua, from getting involved with Ngannou on the inside. And they were saying those things, because Fury in his fight vs Ngannou struggled to wrestling in on the inside'.

February 17th 2024 'Francis Ngannou vs Anthony Joshua'. The first real clinch in that fight, was initiated by Joshua 'And it was a crucial moment in the fight. Because Ngannou was trying to let his punches go'.

Joshua grabbed Ngannou, as if to say 'Alright, we are in that dark alley now, what are you going to do?'. Francis Nagnnou in that moment, could not negate Joshua's strength in the same way he did with Fury.

And I have continually stated and highlighted 'That this was the most impressive aspect of Joshua's performance vs Ngannou'.

Oleksandr Uysk has beaten Anthony Joshua twice 'Joshua is superior to Fury in multiple aspects of is game, power, brute strength, combination punching, fundamentals and being technical correct'.

People also overlook the Dubois fight 'Dubois is another Heavyweight fighter, who for me has superior punching power and brute strength to Fury'.

Dubois has just beaten and knocked out a fighter who out weighed him by 94 pounds 'Fury has not really achieved such a feat of strength'.

So coming into this fight, I don't think Uysk is going to be intimidated by the strength and mass of Fury 'To the level the media or Fury's hardcore fans are trying claim'.

Note: Tyson Fury has always been good at reading a fight, but? I have stated that in regard to this fight 'Fury and his team have been uncertain on how to prepare for the fight'. And this has mainly been influenced by his performance vs Ngannou, for the first time in many years? We have seen people from Fury's team question the Kronk Fury concept.

Fury and his team have gone into complete overdrive, and reacted in a panic 'I sense they are going to attempt to bring back some hybrid version of the Riddler'.

I have spoken about this more in-depth in other posts 'I don't think this is the most optimal and wisest way or Fury to prepare for this fight'. Historically whenever fighters who share similar traits with Fury have dramatically altered their training concepts, it has many times negatively effected their performance.

Tyson Fury will ether win or lose this fight in training camp, and it won't be due to lack of effort 'It will be because of tactically has not made the best move'.

Even still? I don't think people can totally disregard Tyson Fury 'Whatever Version of Fury appears. Because in terms of what I think it will take to beat Fury at this level'.

The Undisputed Heavyweight Championship of the world 'Is the pinnacle of professional boxing'.

Tyson Fury is representing himself, and his fighting culture 'If Fury is in a fight, where he is struggling go out score Uysk skill for skill. Then I would expect Fury throw caution to the wind, in very serious way'.

I have never believed that this was the right way to fight Usyk, due to the trait which Fury has of producing unforced errors and his innate clumsiness. But it would most likely push Usyk to show more area's of his game'.

Uysk has elite level endurance, fighters have struggled to make him fight in area's where he does not want to fight 'For long enough periods of time'. That is why tactically if Fury, decided to bull forward vs Uysk? Fury has to inflict serious damage in first half of the fight. If Fury does not achieved this, then the tendency of him making unforced errors as a fight progresses is most likely going to bring the fight back towards Uysk'.

It is all of those factors which is making this fight, a difficult fight for Tyson Fury to prepare for 'And is why in my opinion, Fury and his team have reacted in a panic and gone into complete overdrive' etc.

[hugh grant]

Yes, I disagree with tyson. Usy k has stepped up and best josh who is elite and wasnt found wanting. Fury is implying he's better than.josh, and a level above josh, that's just an opinion though.
I'm sure fury might be better than josh and might be able to best usyk, but it's only an opinion. That usy k has already stepped up and not been found wanting is closer to fact, than an opinion