Comments Thread For: Paulie Malignaggi: 'Idiocracy' That Has Rewarded Ryan Garcia Will Be Revealed

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Whether you like Haneys style or not , there's no denying that he's a consumate professional. Garcia is more like a kid than a man. He just wants to have fun and "play" at boxing , enjoy his celebrity, get high and knock up 19 year olds. Meanwhile, Haney is constantly working, always working on his skills. He is mature and focused. The only thing that Ryan really has is power and speed, that's not enough at the top level , you've got to have the mind also, and the character.

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Ryan Garcia = Victor Ortiz 2.0

Victor Ortiz saved his crazy for in the ring , Ryan does it on his own time.

[Jab jab boom]

What I asked you was if you downplayed Tank Davis for beating Rolly like you’re doing with Cruz now?

No, you clearly said that Garcia was Mexican-American and thus why he draws the most gullible and simple-minded fan base in boxing.

Yes, I consider Tank beating Rolly barely a step up from him beating a club fighter. Not impressed with that win or any of tanks recent wins for that matter.

Yes, that’s what I said about Garcias fan base and stand by it. Mexican American fans support many fighter strictly based on nationalism and Garcia is one of them. If he wasn’t Mexican American, 90% of his Mexican American fan base wouldn’t even take him seriously and nevertheless support him. He’s a waste to the sport. I actually have more respect for Jake Paul than I do Ryan Garcia….and that says a lot.

[BlackRobb]

yeah america is so rotten that everyone is Q'ing to get out of the place

It's not rotten for non-Black Americans and folks from morbidly corrupt and harsh third world countries. If you're coming from South Hell, of course America looks wonderful.

[Smash]

It's not rotten for non-Black Americans and folks from morbidly corrupt and harsh third world countries. If you're coming from South Hell, of course America looks wonderful.

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[OnePunch]

It's not rotten for non-Black Americans and folks from morbidly corrupt and harsh third world countries. If you're coming from South Hell, of course America looks wonderful.

There are no guards at the borders. Everyone is free to leave if its so terrible here........

[Oldskoolg]

I’m all for making amends…which has been done already many times over. You may want to watch Morgan Freeman interview with Chris Wallace for context. Anywho, who deserves “reparations?” How is it calculated? Do the Irish, Chinese, Japanese, or any other marginalized group deserve reparations? Who pays? Do the African nations who started the slave trade have to also pitch in? How about nations still slave trading? Are they culpable? What other victims are afoot? What about the ***ish ancestors from WWII? I could go on and on and on because truly the list of those oppressed by the evil “Americans” is endless. But we all know that is not what this is about. It’s the endless cycle of victimhood that permeates a culture that is hell bent on being in perpetual victimhood. Where personal choices are now the fault of others and someone has to pay.

The Japanese did get reparations post WWII for their internment. Israel still gets reparations paid by Germany, and also gets a minimum $2b a year stipend from the USA who had no part in harming my people after the fall of the Weimar Republic. Indigenous groups are still getting reparations to this day as well in the form of tax breaks, land, the right to have casinos in states that legally don’t allow ********, the Italian American victims of lynchings in the south namely Louisiana got reparations due to Italy coming close to declaring g war on the usa for the treatment of Italian peoples in the southern states. Even the nation of Mexico was paid for the losses of what is now American territory after the Mexican American war. Slave owning “planters” were paid reparations for the loss of their enslaved workers after the civil war as well. The only group never to be paid direct reparations in the usa are the descendants of enslaved Africans going back to the 17th century. So I think they have a pretty good case for it. And it’s not just slavery, it’s the destruction of economic centres in places like Rosewood, Greenwood, Colfax, Wilmington, Atlanta in 1906, Elaine…the list goes on of mass ethnic cleansing and the destruction of towns, settlements, and economic centres. A debt is owed, and a debt not owed accrues interest. I support my fellow Americans of FBA ancestry in cashing in on their debt. It’s owed. This nation would not be what it is workout the blood of their ancestors nor the fruits of their labour, inventions, and patriotism in every war we have fought since the beginning of this country, and let us not forget, they didn’t get VA homeloans or the GI Bill after WWII…and home ownership in California alone has built generational wealth. Californians selling homes for $1-$3m are moving to Texas paying cash for 500k homes and living like kings.
Reparations go much much deeper than slavery alone…

[LAchargers373]

Bro, this what’s wrong with these times. Why tf do you care about what he says or does on his personal time? He’s a boxer and an entertainer. That’s all. Idc what he does or say, all I care about is him fighting. As far as fighting goes, everyone knows the tank fight was made because of him, no one else. Regardless of the outcome, he did what no other fighter was willing to do and that’s give in to all the demands to make the fight happen. How many fighters are doing that? Same with Haney. Again, regardless of the outcome, he’s willing to bet on himself and make these fights happen. No other fight is doing this.

Make the fights happen and then quit when it gets tough lmao. You wanna give some entitled little punk your money that’s completely your right but don’t tell me **** smells like roses.
You say he the only one doing this? What are you smoking? He’s had ONE world class level fight and he folded.

Teo fought loma ortiz kambumsauce
haney fought loma kambumsauce 2x now fighting sub par garcia

so your little narrative about “he’s the only one making big fights” just isn’t true lmao. Him and his minions are calling the one competitive fight he made like the end game of boxing lol. Foh. Dummies lol

[Boxingfanatic75]

The Japanese did get reparations post WWII for their internment. Israel still gets reparations paid by Germany, and also gets a minimum $2b a year stipend from the USA who had no part in harming my people after the fall of the Weimar Republic. Indigenous groups are still getting reparations to this day as well in the form of tax breaks, land, the right to have casinos in states that legally don’t allow ********, the Italian American victims of lynchings in the south namely Louisiana got reparations due to Italy coming close to declaring g war on the usa for the treatment of Italian peoples in the southern states. Even the nation of Mexico was paid for the losses of what is now American territory after the Mexican American war. Slave owning “planters” were paid reparations for the loss of their enslaved workers after the civil war as well. The only group never to be paid direct reparations in the usa are the descendants of enslaved Africans going back to the 17th century. So I think they have a pretty good case for it. And it’s not just slavery, it’s the destruction of economic centres in places like Rosewood, Greenwood, Colfax, Wilmington, Atlanta in 1906, Elaine…the list goes on of mass ethnic cleansing and the destruction of towns, settlements, and economic centres. A debt is owed, and a debt not owed accrues interest. I support my fellow Americans of FBA ancestry in cashing in on their debt. It’s owed. This nation would not be what it is workout the blood of their ancestors nor the fruits of their labour, inventions, and patriotism in every war we have fought since the beginning of this country, and let us not forget, they didn’t get VA homeloans or the GI Bill after WWII…and home ownership in California alone has built generational wealth. Californians selling homes for $1-$3m are moving to Texas paying cash for 500k homes and living like kings.
Reparations go much much deeper than slavery alone…

I guess my deeper question is, where does it stop? One group or another throughout all human history has been either enslaved, dominated, cheated, cast aside, etc etc. In the grand scheme of things, slavery goes back to BC. Do we trace ancestors to that unknown time to pay reparations? The American Indians were enslaving each other long before settlers hit the shores. Massacring, enslaving, raping, pillaging. Every society ever known to man has never escaped the litany of crimes cast against it. In the grand scheme of things we are the youngest free nation known to mankind. So therefore should be the least on the hook for any talks of monetary compensation. We also know, monetary compensation is useless when it comes to making amends. Who is to pay? How do we trace ancestry with respect to who is to pay? Taxpayers? Why should my very own tax dollars go to anyone that my ancestry had absolutely no take in? Or should I absorb the guilt and bite the bullet because well, that’s just the way it goes?

Booker T. Washington said it best in 1911.
“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

[Oldskoolg]

I guess my deeper question is, where does it stop? One group or another throughout all human history has been either enslaved, dominated, cheated, cast aside, etc etc. In the grand scheme of things, slavery goes back to BC. Do we trace ancestors to that unknown time to pay reparations? The American Indians were enslaving each other long before settlers hit the shores. Massacring, enslaving, raping, pillaging. Every society ever known to man has never escaped the litany of crimes cast against it. In the grand scheme of things we are the youngest free nation known to mankind. So therefore should be the least on the hook for any talks of monetary compensation. We also know, monetary compensation is useless when it comes to making amends. Who is to pay? How do we trace ancestry with respect to who is to pay? Taxpayers? Why should my very own tax dollars go to anyone that my ancestry had absolutely no take in? Or should I absorb the guilt and bite the bullet because well, that’s just the way it goes?

Booker T. Washington said it best in 1911.
“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

Ancestry can be traced to the 1870s census. If someone can prove through their dna that they belong to the FBA ethnicity and or show their ancestry dated to that census then you have two ways to prove there. There has been an ethno-genesis concerning FBA people where their dna can show them grouped to peopesncomingniutnof Georgia, North Carolina, ******ia. Because of their mixing of ancestry out of modern day countries from northwest Africa down to Southern Africa, indigenous American ancestry, with ancestry also coming from Scotland, wales, England, Ireland, and Norway/Denmark due the mass sexual assault of their people they have a specific dna pattern that’s easily traceable to the southern usa that makes their dna different from anyone else in the world. So in terms of identifying who would get the “40 acres and a mule” that was promised them by Lincoln, I think that’s an easy solution. The fact that they are the one group that has been denied reparations speaks volumes on just why they should get it. If other peoples want to make their case in various parts of the world, then they should do that, but that’s not really an American concern. America has one group that it’s denied owed compensation all the way through actions such as redlining by banks that have denied loans for home and business purchases, and that is an act the American courts have told banks they ca not do to FBA people ao this isn’t exactly ancient history. America got comfortable with a permanent under class and actions such as redlining and over regulation of black owned businesses is the modern version of an old problem. I support justice and the righting of wrongs as well as done for my people, I cannot not support the FBAs when my people have been through a very similar experience but in a foreign land