Who are the best professional boxers in history that Lomachenko could had beaten at 126-135?

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  • QueensburyRules
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    - - In theory Loma could beat all, but in turn many may well beat him.

    His pro career would've been better had he skipped his 2nd Olympic Gold quest to turn pro instead. He's easily a historical top 5 in his weight classes in talent and could make a claim for #1.

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    • lopetego
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      Loma is a bona fide ATG talent at 126 lbs, one of the best to ever lace them up. He'd beat plenty of other greats in history.

      I think he'd beaten guys like Arguello, Kid Chocolate, and plenty of primitive cavemen like Johnny Killbane and Abe Atell

      I dont think he'd beat the cream of the crop like Willie Pep or Sal Sanchez, but he'd be competitive

      Loma has been fighting at a size disadvantage for most of his career, people fail to notice this. He fought his legendary amateur career at 130, he only moved up as a professional searching for legacy and bigger purses, and also because he's getting older. It sucks but Loma turned pro too late, and we only had a glimpse of what he could do in his prime, similar to Rigondeaux.

      130-135's not Loma's ideal weight, he's only been succesful because of his vastly superior skills compared to current LW fighters, but I don't see him beating many historical greats due to size disadvantage, I don't see him beating a Duran of Armstrong at 135.


      Originally posted by Boxing 112
      He's great but people need to chill over hyping him still. Also the Lopez fight was not close a close fight is where it's debatable who won. Lopez Loma was not close Loma barely did anything the first half.

      He needs to fight either Tank Or Shakur after Kambosos
      Loma came to the fight injured, that's why he barely threw any punches for like 7 rounds, when he finally decided to throw in the final rounds, he was SCHOOLING and dominating Teo, too bad it was too late

      Teo won that fight merely by being active despite punching Loma's gloves and missing hits all night, Loma was always the better fighter, and if he was healthy, he'd have wrecked Teo. That's why Teofimo ran away from the rematch like a *****, same thing Salido did

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      • deathofaclown
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        #13
        130-135 Floyd takes him to school.

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          I wonder how he'd do against Hamed at 126, he was able to use his technique against GRJ to nullify his hand speed advantage with precision and accuracy. Naz was an amazing talent with crushing power at the weight but technically very unsound leaving him often open for counters.

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            Originally posted by Spray_resistant
            I wonder how he'd do against Hamed at 126, he was able to use his technique against GRJ to nullify his hand speed advantage with precision and accuracy. Naz was an amazing talent with crushing power at the weight but technically very unsound leaving him often open for counters.
            Naseem Hamed also had quite the granite chin as he was never stopped, the only who had dropped him was Kevin Kelley (shockingly three times) until Hamed stopped him by KO.

            I think Barrera's mixing up bodywork and head hunting made Hamed unable to respond in time against his unpredictable offense. It took 4 rounds for Barrera's bodywork to slow Hamed's pace down, making his slick (yet unsound) defense and footwork more manageable to hit. He even managed to land three jabs at once.



            I believe Lomachenko should be able to replicate the same gameplan.
            Last edited by Malvado; 04-04-2024, 01:17 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Feroz

              Naseem Hamed also had quite the granite chin, the only who had dropped him was Kevin Kelley (shockingly three times) until Hamed stopped him by KO.

              I think Barrera's mixing up bodywork and head hunting made Hamed unable to respond in time against his unpredictable offense. It took 4 rounds for Barrera's bodywork to slow Hamed's pace down, making his slick (yet unsound) defense and footwork more manageable to hit. He even managed to land three jabs at once.



              I believe Lomachenko should be able to replicate the same gameplan.
              I believe he should be able to as well but Hamed was very unpredictable and had explosive power, Loma would have to be very tight with his defense in this hypothetical since he has been downed himself before.

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                Originally posted by Boxing 112
                He's great but people need to chill over hyping him still. Also the Lopez fight was not close a close fight is where it's debatable who won. Lopez Loma was not close Loma barely did anything the first half.

                He needs to fight either Tank Or Shakur after Kambosos
                https://boxrec.com/en/scoring/2523547

                Average score from 386 people was 115-113

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                • charliepaerker
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                  #18
                  JMM, Morales, Pac, Barrera, Mayweather all beat him

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Feroz

                    If we apply the old rules such as the same day weigh in in benefit of Loma, he also have to fight for 15 rounds straight.

                    He had an extensive amateur career but I am not sure it be beneficial for him as he tend tire and give away rounds with the current rules, that's with 12 rounds. Most amateur fights are 3 rounds, with the Olympics being 4 rounds specifically. I mean it could be argued that he have prepare with better conditioning but same can be said with most great fighters.

                    As for same day weigh ins, he benefit quite a lot as Linares rehydrated up to 152 pounds and Loma 138 pounds (just 3 more) at lightweight. Lopez and Specially Haney weighted heavier than Loma, but it's not like Loma can complain about it. No one is breaking any rules if they cut down to the specific weight.

                    He probably do better if he fought at super featherweight. He was less susceptible to getting damaged and consecutively made 4 opponents quite in the stool, getting nicknamed No Mas Chenko like powerpuncher Nicholas Walters who retired for 7 years. Though one of them was a bantamweight (Rigondeaux was a great fighter though, just too small for Loma).

                    Still, wonder how he fair against Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera and Juan Manuel Marquez. Probably also Alexis Arguello.
                    One thing is for sure that there is no fighter like Loma. So regardless what would happen, I'm fairly certain that it would not be an easy night for anyone, as we've seen with his debatable L's.

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                    • Malvado
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Haka

                      One thing is for sure that there is no fighter like Loma. So regardless what would happen, I'm fairly certain that it would not be an easy night for anyone, as we've seen with his debatable L's.
                      He sure has the complete Ring IQ to decipher any style considering his really extensive amateur background and he has impressive athleticism to boot. With comparable a style comparable to Pac's use of combinations and angles along his dynamic reflexes to parry and slip shots. Being that said, I think that the only negative influence of his amateur boxing style is that it made him more susceptible of getting caught. But no fighter is without their flaws.

                      Any great fighter with sufficient athleticism and skills can pull off a win with a solid gameplan like Haney did, like another posted said, he might be able to beat the best at his division, but he in turn might also get beaten by great fighters.

                      But yeah Loma would give a difficult bout to anyone, win or lose.
                      Last edited by Malvado; 04-04-2024, 03:23 PM.

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