So, if Spence is not a great fight for Fundora...

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Spence was the undefeated unified Welterweight Champion going into the Crawford fight, he’s now a former champion moving up in weight and coming off a one sided beating. Can you see the difference?

He’d still be a great win for Fundora tbh. Spence will stop him though IMO.

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Now we got excuses why the winner won and why the loser lost, surprising how fans react to a bit of claret, its fighting the UFC has blood everywhere all the time if we see it boxing its quick call out the emergency squad. Lots of fighters get a cut on the top of the head and win, just as Fundora won with a broken nose swallowing his blood, its fighting no excuses.

Caused by an illegal elbow, it wasn't intentional but if the cut had come from a legal punch then fair game. The unintentional foul, which is what it was completely changed the complexion of the fight.

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Unless he was physically draining himself, like Devin Haney who since moving up looks more dangerous since he’s no longer drained.

True, but Haney has less wear-and-tear and his style doesn't rely on power and physicality. Let's see what changes Spence makes under a new training staff.

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You think Fundora would beat Spence? He won last night and took advantage of a great opportunity but nothing has shown me the overall package he brings to the ring is that great. He fought an almost even keel fight against a guy who couldn't see in one eye for most of the fight.

I didn't think Fundora would lose to Mendoza or beat Tszyu so idk how I should feel about him vs Errol lol.

I def don't think Errol is in his prime anymore & I can't believe the accident, the eye surgery & the Bud ass whipping haven't diminished him.

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I didn't think Fundora would lose to Mendoza or beat Tszyu so idk how I should feel about him vs Errol lol.

I def don't think Errol is in his prime anymore & I can't believe the accident, the eye surgery & the Bud ass whipping haven't diminished him.

I don't think rating him on his performance or lack thereof against Bud is fair, Bud is an elite talent with a high boxing IQ and just better than him.

The Spence from the Ugas has a very good chance against Fundora from last night, if anything I'd say he has gotten progressively worse since Lubin cracked his chin, if Lubin wasn't so chinny it might have ended better for him.

As for Spence, he hasn't fought in a while so we'll have to see where he is at.

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I don't think rating him on his performance or lack thereof against Bud is fair, Bud is an elite talent with a high boxing IQ and just better than him.

The Spence from the Ugas has a very good chance against Fundora from last night, if anything I'd say he has gotten progressively worse since Lubin cracked his chin, if Lubin wasn't so chinny it might have ended better for him.

As for Spence, he hasn't fought in a while so we'll have to see where he is at.

Errol losing to Bud wasn't crazy. Errol losing almost every minute of the fight was. But I think all that other sh^t has had to impact him + hes past prime on top of all that. Losing to Fundora wouldn't be crazy to me either. We'll maybe see whats what tho.

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Errol losing to Bud wasn't crazy. Errol losing almost every minute of the fight was. But I think all that other sh^t has had to impact him + hes past prime on top of all that. Losing to Fundora wouldn't be crazy to me either. We'll maybe see whats what tho.

He looked fine in the two fights after the accident against Garcia and Ugas, the biz was very hush hush about exactly how injured he was. Bud is just that good, it can happen to an impressive looking fighter when someone just has a little more speed, better ring IQ, good gameplan. Right now Spence is an unknown quantity, he could look really good with the move up or he could lose to journeymen we just don't know yet since he has been inactive.

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He looked fine in the two fights after the accident against Garcia and Ugas, the biz was very hush hush about exactly how injured he was. Bud is just that good, it can happen to an impressive looking fighter when someone just has a little more speed, better ring IQ, good gameplan. Right now Spence is an unknown quantity, he could look really good with the move up or he could lose to journeymen we just don't know yet since he has been inactive.

Agree to disagree. Bud didn't win almost every minute vs Showtime Shawn, arguable his best opp up til Errol. Him winning vs Errol is understandable, him winning almost every minute is a whole other thing.

Agree Errol today is of unknown quality but I think its a mix of the ass beating Bud gave him, the eye sh^t & accident sh^t.

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Spence was the undefeated unified Welterweight Champion going into the Crawford fight, he’s now a former champion moving up in weight and coming off a one sided beating. Can you see the difference?

He’d still be a great win for Fundora tbh. Spence will stop him though IMO.

Exactly. It's like context doesn't even matter to some people.