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Alvarez, Marquez, and most of Mayweather Junior's opponents were all weight draining themselves 'In reality they were competing weight divisions below their more natural fight weight'.
Floyd Mayweather in comparison, was a old school fighter 'Meaning he did not weight drain himself extensively at any point in his career'.
Whatever weight class Mayweather Junior was fighting in? Then on the night of the fight, he was extremely close to the weight limit.
It has only been since the introduction of 'The same day weigh in rule, have fighters started to take weight draining techniques to the extremes. Sugar Ray Robinson, Jake Lamotta, Rocky Graziano, none of those fighters were weight draining themselves to the extreme of Alvarez has within his career'.
Sugar Ray Leonard fight night weight was never 15-20 pounds heavier than his weigh in weight 'Under the same day weigh in rule, there was no toxic weight draining culture in boxing'.
Note: When Marquez vs Mayweather Junior fight was announced to take place at a catch weight of 144 pounds 'With no rehydration clause'. Floyd Mayweather Junior was actually the fighter who was making the fight more difficult for himself, anyone who has any knowledge of training. Will understand that it is easier for a fighter to move up in weight, than it is for a fighter to come down in weight'.
Floyd Mayweather Junior even after being semi-retired for 20 months, weighed in vs Marquez 146 pounds 'I would also imagine that, there was not much a difference between the fight night weights of both fighters'.
If people want to complain about fighters, distorting the sport with weigh in tactics 'Then Floyd Mayweather Junior, is not the fighter ALL you people should be targeting'.
Floyd Mayweather Junior was a old school fighter, meaning? Due to his training methodologies which he used, he could travel back in time and still be competitive 'Mayweather Junior never relied heavily on modern day training techniques during his career. And more importantly Mayweather Junior's lifestyle was very similar to fighters in past era's, who were obligated to weigh in on the same day of the fight'.
Bernard Hopkins, Carl Froch those are some other modern day fighters 'Who also incorporated the old school way of training, and staying close to their fighting weight at all times'.
In reality? It is the fighters of this modern day era, who have created the catch weights and rehydration clauses 'The only reason why catch weights and rehydration clauses are used, is because there is a toxic weight draining culture in boxing. There is a mass of boxers who all believe that it is mandatory that they must weight drain themselves, and basically in my opinion pose as something they are not'.
Benavidez in no other boxing era, would be a 168 pound fighter 'Benavidez is fighting I estimate, two full weight classes below his more natural fighting weight'.
Canelo Alvarez only at this point of his career? Is he now fighting in a weight class 'That is more closer to his more natural fighting weight'.
To conclude: The boxers in the sport, who believe that it is a mandate to weight drain themselves 'And promote the toxic weight draining culture in boxing, those are the fighters responsible for catch weights and rehydration clauses. Those are the fighters who in my opinion have distorted the perception of the sport'.
In the lower weight classes, I personally don't think modern day fighters 'Train to win primarily. Not to the intensity and focus of past era's. Modern day fighters seem from my observation to primarily train to make the weight'.
It is always a talking point, whenever there is a big fight in the lower weight classes 'There is always somebody bringing up the topic of weight. There is always a fighter making a excuse, that he was weight drained'.
Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence Junior, Ryan Gracia vs Gervonta 'Tank' Davis, Chris Eubank Junior vs Liam Smith II 'I have just highlighted a few recent fights, were making the weight has been used as a excuse for the losing fighter'.
It is all the boxers who have endorsed the toxic weight draining culture, that have started catch weights and rehydration clauses 'If there was no toxic weight draining culture in the sport, then in the lower weight classes? The competition would be more pure, less manufactured'.
The competition would be more organic and less manufactured, because when fights would happen in the lower weight classes 'Viewers of the sport, and the fighters themselves. Would know that when a Welter Weight or Super Middle Weight fight is announced. Two Welter Weights and Super Middle Weights will be fighting each other, with the primary objective to win'.
Currently right now? This is not the situation in boxing 'If a Welter Weight or Super Middle Weight fight is announced in this modern era. You may get one fighter who is genuine Welter Weight or Super Middle Weight fighter, and then you may get a opponent who is weight draining themselves to be the big man on fight night'.
And those fighters who are weight draining themselves extensively, can sometimes be a weight class or two weight classes above on fight night. Eventually that sort of training and lifestyle has been shown over a long duration of time, to have a negative effect on fighters performance and overall conditioning.
Those fighters, and people who endorse that type of lifestyle 'You all need to stop complaining'.
Fighters who weight drain themselves to be the big man on fight night 'All they are telling me is that, they don't want to fight their opponents in a direct competition'.
This is why the Heavyweight Division, as a open class division 'Is the purest form of competition. Because the fighters are preparing optimally for themselves, there is no weight limit, catch weights or rehydration clauses, just two fighters preparing to the best of their ability to win'.
Of course the dynamic within the lower weight class is different by it's nature, even under the same day weight in rule 'But at least the competition was more pure during those past era's. Fighters knew exactly what they were preparing for, and for me they trained to win primarily and not just to make the weight'.
Floyd Mayweather Junior is a old school fighter 'Mayweather Junior is not responsible for the toxic weight draining culture in boxing. And he is not responsible for the fighters, who feel the need to be the big man in fight night'.
All the fighters in the game, who extensively weight drain themselves and endorse the toxic weight draining culture 'They are the fighters who started catch weights and rehydration clauses' If they where not using those training methodologies, or having this lifestyle? Catch weights and rehydration clauses, would not be significant factor at times like it is within this modern day era during big fights' etc.
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