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  • #31
    Originally posted by daggum View Post

    he did do the best that he could you are right about that. if he had stepped up earlier he would have been exposed long ago but because he kept fighting bums and had shiny marketing he amassed a cult like following who would say "biggest puncher in boxing history" his 2 ko's against 7 top 10 guys would say differently of course but even the 2 top 10 guys he beat was probably better than expected but the charade went on long enough. the 40 year olds ran dry...until zhang arrived lol
    There are no “if’s” in boxing armchair. And he wasn’t exposed armchair. We knew what he had before he lost. It took a champion in Fury. He didn’t avoid anyone so **** out of here with that top 10 b.s outlook. You have never had a fight in your liffe which is why you gave this rank amateur answer. And I don’t nitpick who he fouht and didn’t fight either armchair. He avoided no one. And Zhang is a bum. But he’s an acceptable 40 to you. The sun don’t shine unless son shines. I know…

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    • #32
      Originally posted by daggum View Post

      furys never been a big puncher and he ko'd wilder twice. fury couldnt ko wallin .fury couldnt ko ngannou. wilder went down like a sack of potatoes. twice. zhang is better than wilder. he has 2 wins over joyce who is much better than anyone wilder ever beat by far. ooo the great ortiz, the great 40 year old ortiz whose best win is...jennings. oh joyce beat him. thats joyces third or 4th best win. he also beat parker, dubois, and stiverne. and zhang beat joyce. twice. zhang also had a pretty close fight with parker who schooled wilder but zhang is a bum? makes no sense. the problem with saying "but wilder is shot now" is that a younger wilder has no resume to fall back on.
      Wilder took a beating in those fights regardless of how hard YOU think Fury punches. You have never had a fight so video is how you form your reckless, warped opinion. And we’re not here to analyze resumes armchair. Giving Joyce props is hilarious when they (Parker, Joyce and Zhang) have all beaten each other. But I see why you would ignore Wilder being shot. It’s your belief that Zhang is greater than Wilder lmfao. Parker beat him so he can’t be. Please. Parker beat both regardless of how. But Wikder wasn’t shot and isn’t shot. Wilder fought who he fought and you know he was shot armchair.. And Joyce was a ****en bum. Joyce is where he is because he’s a ****en bum. Zhang is a bum, but he he can beat Wilder lol. Why? His resumes that’s why!~Daggum.
      Last edited by Raggamuffin; 03-29-2024, 06:04 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
        There are no “if’s” in boxing armchair. And he wasn’t exposed armchair. We knew what he had before he lost. It took a champion in Fury. He didn’t avoid anyone so **** out of here with that top 10 b.s outlook. You have never had a fight in your liffe which is why you gave this rank amateur answer. And I don’t nitpick who he fouht and didn’t fight either armchair. He avoided no one. And Zhang is a bum. But he’s an acceptable 40 to you. The sun don’t shine unless son shines. I know…
        he was exposed. we knew what he had before he lost? what did he have before he lost? a sh-it resume and terrible performances. you are the one making hypotheticals and claiming wilder was something that he is not. not me. all evidence shows that if he had fought better competition he would have gone down in flames. you are the one making counter factuals. i am basing my arguments on reality. the if you are claiming is "if wilder had fought better opponents earlier he would have won" NO EVIDENCE FOR THIS. you are the one claiming "if wilder hadnt been so old he would have done better against fury, parker, etc..." NO EVIDENCE FOR THIS. so what do we do when we have no evidence for the claims we are making? we dont take them seriously!

        he literally turned down 100 million dollars and ducked the #1 guy in the division. he also had no interest in facing klitschko after he beat stiverne, he also turned down a career high payday to fight whyte so not sure what you are talking about. he literally beat 2 top 10 guys his entire career over a near 10 year span. he couldnt get anyone else in the ring even though he had the backing of the most powerful promoter/network in boxing? thats simply unbelievable. he wanted easy fights. he got easy fights. once again lets not do the hypothetical counter factual thing. lets base our conclusions on the evidence at hand. he didnt fight good opponents. when he did fight good opponents he looked bad/lost. he didnt want to fight most of the top guys. he didnt fight most of the top guys.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
          Wilder took a beating in those fights regardless of how hard YOU think Fury punches. You have never had a fight so video is how you form your reckless, warped opinion. And we’re not here to analyze resumes armchair. Giving Joyce props is hilarious when they (Parker, Joyce and Zhang) have all beaten each other. But I see why you would ignore Wilder being shot. It’s your belief that Zhang is greater than Wilder lmfao. Parker beat him so he can’t be. Please. Parker beat both regardless of how. But Wikder wasn’t shot and isn’t shot. Wilder fought who he fought and you know he was shot armchair.. And Joyce was a ****en bum. Joyce is where he is because he’s a ****en bum. Zhang is a bum, but he he can beat Wilder lol. Why? His resumes that’s why!~Daggum.
          yeah im sorry for using video to form my opinion. i should use emotions like you.

          yeah you dont want to anaylze resumes because wilders is terrible and you have no leg to stand on.

          everything you are saying is nonsense. you are literally dismissing resumes as a way to judge fighters? ok lets use the eye test for wilder. oh wow he sucks and looks terrible being constantly outboxed by tomato cans. happy?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by daggum View Post

            he was exposed. we knew what he had before he lost? what did he have before he lost? a sh-it resume and terrible performances. you are the one making hypotheticals and claiming wilder was something that he is not. not me.
            I read this much and just garbaged the rest. Guys like you who rant and rant think that you know boxing. There is no nationalism with me in boxing. Either you can fight or you can’t. Either you’re a champion, or not. I don’t argue resumes with clowns like you. If you can make a career out of prize fighting I’m happy for that fighter whether he/she becomes champion or not. Insulting Wilder just makes you feel better inside I guess lol. Once you face a guy who can beat you and has beaten you and you rematch him I’m sold. Once you’re hurt and you survive a fight and win, I’m sold. If you lose and you tried I’m sold. You can’t sit in a room with fighters and say that they were EXPOSED..! They don’t like that from armchairs.

            Second, why would I even argue resumes with a clown like you? You’re an armchair. You have NEVER fought an amateur fight. That’s why we get the above garbage from fake ass know it all’s like you. I just call a spade a spade armchair. Wilder is shot, but he was better than Zhang, and Zhang is a bum. That sounds harsh, but it is who he is. A buuuum. Zhang was an interim WBO paper champion and he lost his paper title to Parker. You’ve probably argued with 1000 people talking about Wilder. I’m a Fury guy. Guys like Wilder weren’t supposed to last as long as he did, but he did the best with his ability despite NEVER learning to fight inside. That’s how Fury beat him. Where everyone stayed on the outside, Fury walked in on him taking chances and he got hurt but he survived and stopped Wilder. That isn’t Wilder being exposed clown.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by daggum View Post

              yeah im sorry for using video to form my opinion. i should use emotions like you.

              yeah you dont want to anaylze resumes because wilders is terrible and you have no leg to stand on.

              everything you are saying is nonsense. you are literally dismissing resumes as a way to judge fighters? ok lets use the eye test for wilder. oh wow he sucks and looks terrible being constantly outboxed by tomato cans. happy?
              Arguing resumes is for armchairs. You think you know who is tough by name, I don’t. You’re an armchair. It’s all you know. Names…. But you dismiss Wilders names on his resume and prop up othersfighgers resumes which makes you a complete clown. But it takes a special type of clown to differentiate Zhangs and Wilders resume. Zhang is a bum and he’s almost out of boxing,. But hey, he beat Joyce right lol….

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              • #37
                Originally posted by daggum View Post

                furys never been a big puncher and he ko'd wilder twice. fury couldnt ko wallin .fury couldnt ko ngannou. wilder went down like a sack of potatoes. twice. zhang is better than wilder. he has 2 wins over joyce who is much better than anyone wilder ever beat by far. ooo the great ortiz, the great 40 year old ortiz whose best win is...jennings. oh joyce beat him. thats joyces third or 4th best win. he also beat parker, dubois, and stiverne. and zhang beat joyce. twice. zhang also had a pretty close fight with parker who schooled wilder but zhang is a bum? makes no sense. the problem with saying "but wilder is shot now" is that a younger wilder has no resume to fall back on.
                Hey man Ortiz is the greatest fighter to never win a title don't ya know
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
                  That power that Zhangs bum ass 40 year old has couldnt ko Parker yet Joyce stopped Parker. You have no point. Wilder took a beating before he was stopped. This rank amateur outlook from you thinking that that’s a one punch ko just shows your limited boxing knowledge. But hey, if they look like you root for them eh…? Zhang is a ****en bum.
                  dropped Parker twice. something Joshua couldn't do over 12 rounds.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by HeadShots View Post

                    dropped Parker twice. something Joshua couldn't do over 12 rounds.
                    Joyce stopped him. So what’s your point, lmao…!!!??? You guys are so easy with your insanely, hilarious outlooks lol…

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post

                      Hey man Ortiz is the greatest fighter to never win a title don't ya know
                      We thought that was Zhang alt. So which is it. Joyce, Zhang or Parker lmao…!!!??? There’s belts and then there’s the real lineal title. Alts, lmao…

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