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  • DClefthook
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    #41
    Originally posted by TonyRespectful

    Why does it have to be one or the other?Can’t Matchroom,Pbc,Top Rank ,GBP all succeed ? Does everything have to be racial for you? Isn’t that exhausting?
    Racial? You sir obviously ha ent seen my post that I have repeated about 1000xs on this site. I want American boxing to succeed and that means I want PBC TR and GBP on Amazon working together. That would blow boxing up!

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    • wrecksracer
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      #42
      Originally posted by DClefthook

      Racial? You sir obviously ha ent seen my post that I have repeated about 1000xs on this site. I want American boxing to succeed and that means I want PBC TR and GBP on Amazon working together. That would blow boxing up!
      I'd love boxing to succeed in America. However, it's a blue collar sport that blue collar people can't afford. Even if the promotional bodies started working together, the fighters have unrealistic expectations for their pay. Mayweather and Pac could generate interest and money. Canelo was playing hardball with PBC for a Jermall fight. They would have lost money because that's a crappy fight that nobody wanted to see. Now he wants $200 million to fight Benavides. Nobody is going to stage a fight that's going to lose money, except for the Saudis. I hope PBC works out on Amazon. I just don't see them generating enough money to keep their fighters happy.

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      • kiaba360
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        #43
        Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks
        Amazon is like an oxygen tank to PBC survivability lets be real, they even had to put Benavidez as a co main event to Gervonta ppv card cause he just doesn't have that star power yet reason why the ginger said he doesn't bring much to the table, no belts, his 'fan base' are basically Canelo haters ffs lol

        I'll be surprised if they even reach 200k ppv benchmark and thats mainly due to tank wahid. Facts
        I think Benavidez's star-power hasn't grown as quickly because he was placed on PPV too soon. He won't care as long as he's getting paid, but consistently being behind an extra paywall has consequences. His name value is getting artificially boosted because of his association to Canelo...but if he wants long-term growth, he needs to stay active and carve out his own lane. I think it's too late for him to get off PPV because he won't want to sacrifice his paycheck for the visibility. I think this co-main scenario is the best it's going to get.

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          #44
          Originally posted by wrecksracer

          I'd love boxing to succeed in America. However, it's a blue collar sport that blue collar people can't afford. Even if the promotional bodies started working together, the fighters have unrealistic expectations for their pay. Mayweather and Pac could generate interest and money. Canelo was playing hardball with PBC for a Jermall fight. They would have lost money because that's a crappy fight that nobody wanted to see. Now he wants $200 million to fight Benavides. Nobody is going to stage a fight that's going to lose money, except for the Saudis. I hope PBC works out on Amazon. I just don't see them generating enough money to keep their fighters happy.
          The unintended consequence of making boxers financially happy is an overall loss of ambition, which typically leads to inactivity. Once a boxer tastes 7-8 figures, they won't want their purses to regress. Not every match-up is worth the same amount, regardless of how big the boxer's star-power is.

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          • A.B Counterhooks
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            #45
            Originally posted by kiaba360

            I think Benavidez's star-power hasn't grown as quickly because he was placed on PPV too soon. He won't care as long as he's getting paid, but consistently being behind an extra paywall has consequences. His name value is getting artificially boosted because of his association to Canelo...but if he wants long-term growth, he needs to stay active and carve out his own lane. I think it's too late for him to get off PPV because he won't want to sacrifice his paycheck for the visibility. I think this co-main scenario is the best it's going to get.
            Fully agree with your take man. If Benavidez successfully beats Gvozdyk and gets direct shot vs winner of Bivol-Beterviev his stock could potentially reach new heights, cant be depending on what the ginger does or not.

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            • Oldskoolg
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              #46
              Originally posted by TonyRespectful
              For Boxing!I hope pbc on Amazon succeds.Hopefully pbc has seen that working with the other side of the street can be a win win.And I just got an email promoting the pbc fights . I’m going to be positive!
              Tony, when have they not worked with other promotions? They’ve had join ops with golden boy before, they’ve had joint promotions with top rank and ESPN, their fighters have fought on ESPN and dazn only shows. When have they ever been an island of themselves?

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              • Oldskoolg
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                #47
                Originally posted by TonyRespectful

                Why does it have to be one or the other?Can’t Matchroom,Pbc,Top Rank ,GBP all succeed ? Does everything have to be racial for you? Isn’t that exhausting?
                because that’s what the hatred of Haymon is based on. I’m white from GM and I can see it. Those who are obviously engulfed by it simply don’t want the label

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                • Brother Mouzone
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                  #48
                  Their best swing would have been to throw this on prime video . From the article : Amid figures including 170 million-plus Prime subscribers in the U.S. and 230 million worldwide. Instead they throw it on ppv how many of those subscribers are paying for this I know I am not its going in the streambin for me ...........

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                  • Oldskoolg
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by kiaba360

                    I think Benavidez's star-power hasn't grown as quickly because he was placed on PPV too soon. He won't care as long as he's getting paid, but consistently being behind an extra paywall has consequences. His name value is getting artificially boosted because of his association to Canelo...but if he wants long-term growth, he needs to stay active and carve out his own lane. I think it's too late for him to get off PPV because he won't want to sacrifice his paycheck for the visibility. I think this co-main scenario is the best it's going to get.
                    He is becoming the man that Canelo is afraid to fight and the longer people like Mike Tyson sound off and the more the media run with the story the more sports fans will identify him as the man Canelo is afraid to fight.

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                    • MulaKO
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                      #50
                      Lmfao
                      Yeah and Canelo is gonna lose sleep like some of you do
                      The fight is not gonna happen and that’s all there is to it
                      Fight should of happened a few years ago and it didn’t , so fugh it

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