These heavyweights are the worst ever, but Usyk has proven he can hang with the GOATS

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    #11
    This era's fighters aren't bad, they are good enough but their activity is shameful. As for the Usyk's ATG status - only as an amateur. The initial post is ridiculous.

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    • lopetego
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      #12
      Agree, this era is total garbage

      Fury the con man clown
      Wilder the caveman
      Joshua the timid robot

      they all left a lot to be desired

      The Klitschkos were the last true GREAT HWs

      Usyk will be up there, if he beats the gypsy fraud

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        #13
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

        ?Fury has been coming in at 270 + pounds consistently for all of his recent fights.
        He hasn't. 270 was his weight in Wilder II. The only other times he's been above that was two fights, the third Wilder fight where he trained for 3 weeks because he was in the hospital with his daughter, and Ngannou when he clearly didn't train.

        His 2 fights before Ngannou he was 264 and 268 and that's with clothes on. When he's over 270, that's when he's not prepared.

        Even the Wilder 2 fight he wore clothes at the weigh in and was carrying a huge bottle of water, water loading. Apparently his weight was really about 265.

        So you're off the mark saying he constantly weighhs more than 270. That's happened twice when he hadn't trained.

        But keep saying things that suit your agenda with your made up facts.


        Gonna be good fun on here when Fury busts him. Suddenly Usyk will be a cruiserweight that sc****d past Chisora by 1 point and arguably got knocked out by Dubois, that's what they'll say. No credit will be given.
        Last edited by deathofaclown; 03-18-2024, 07:47 AM.

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          #14
          I don't think that the heavyweights is that bad. After Holmes era and before the Tyson era it was pretty bad.

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            #15
            Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
            I don't think that the heavyweights is that bad. After Holmes era and before the Tyson era it was pretty bad.
            - - Tubby Lar the worst era, a single belt holder in a multi belt era managed to avoid most all top contenders.

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              #16
              Originally posted by deathofaclown


              He hasn't. 270 was his weight in Wilder II. The only other times he's been above that was two fights, the third Wilder fight where he trained for 3 weeks because he was in the hospital with his daughter, and Ngannou when he clearly didn't train.

              His 2 fights before Ngannou he was 264 and 268 and that's with clothes on. When he's over 270, that's when he's not prepared.

              Even the Wilder 2 fight he wore clothes at the weigh in and was carrying a huge bottle of water, water loading. Apparently his weight was really about 265.

              So you're off the mark saying he constantly weighhs more than 270. That's happened twice when he hadn't trained.

              But keep saying things that suit your agenda with your made up facts.


              Gonna be good fun on here when Fury busts him. Suddenly Usyk will be a cruiserweight that sc****d past Chisora by 1 point and arguably got knocked out by Dubois, that's what they'll say. No credit will be given.
              Do you think those fights vs Chisora and Whyte were great performances, seriously ? Fury was doing nothing vs Whyte up until he scored a fluke knock-out 'You could tell it was fluke knock-out by the way Fury and his team celebrated. I believe it was Tony Bellew who made this observation'.

              And it was very concerning performance vs Chisora III the way Fury refused to fight a semi-retired Chisora head on 'Even though during the fight build up, Fury stated that he would fight in this manner'.

              At the time when Fury fought Whyte and Chisora 'There were multiple active Heavyweights who would of beaten both Whyte and Chisora in way more impressive fashion'.

              Tyson Fury's two best performances since his comeback, Fury weighed in at over 270 + pounds 'Fury weighed in at 273 pounds vs Wilder II, and 277 pounds vs Wilder III'.

              Those are the two performances and fights 'That transcended Fury's career, and he was prepared for those fights. Tyson Fury weighed in at 270 + pounds for both of those fights'.

              Any other time Fury has weighed under 270 pounds, during his comeback 'The performances really have not been great. That was why Fury made the conscious decision to embrace his super heavyweight mass, it was a tactical move'.

              And what I am telling you in this thread is? All the signs are there, that Tyson Fury and his team are uncertain on how to approach and prepare for this fight 'Fury for the first time in his career, is in a state of uncertainty regarding his abilities'.

              Deathoftheclown, you are also uncertain 'Suddenly you are now criticising Fury's conditioning from pretty much his best fight performances since his comeback'.

              Note: So by your reasoning you think the 260 + pound versions of Fury who fought Whyte and Chisora III 'Were better versions of Fury, than Wilder II & III'. Those were the two performances for me vs Chisora and Whyte ? Which I found very concerning for Tyson Fury. And I am not the only person to make this observation, Shane Mcguigan himself never rated those performances very highly'.

              Both Whyte and Chisora, are fighters who are stylistically great match ups for Tyson Fury 'If a match maker, desired to make Fury look spectacular? Then you match him with fighters who can hardly move inside a boxing ring, and skill for skill are not really great boxers'.

              Still Tyson Fury at 260 + pounds, was being found by Whyte inside the boxing ring 'For long as Whyte was in that fight, he was making it competitive. The Fluke knock-out, saved Fury from a potentially very underwhelming performance'.

              And then Tyson Fury fought Derek Chisora III 'Who had just left team Hayemaker. Which was a clear sign, that he was no longer in the game to 100% win'. Oleksandr Usyk and Joseph Parker? I would say those two fighters fought the last two versions of Chisora, who trained with the intention of winning 100%.

              Tyson Fury right now as we speak, from what I have seen 'Fury has gone into complete overdrive. Fury and his team have reacted in a panic to his performance vs Ngannou'.

              I believe this move from Fury and his team, is potentially a tactical mistake 'For the reasons I have spoken about in-depth in my pervious posts' etc.






              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-18-2024, 12:17 PM.

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                #17
                Seen this dude stop or count out 3 times with body shots and the joke continues. Maidana got up from a Khan body shot. Thurman runs around the ring from a Collazo body shot but this turkey Usyk sells clean body shots as testicle punches. Not a fan of Fury and his nonstop lies but look forward to Hill and him taking care of business.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                  Do you think those fights vs Chisora and Whyte were great performances, seriously ? Fury was doing nothing vs Whyte up until he scored a fluke knock-out 'You could tell it was fluke knock-out by the way Fury and his team celebrated. I believe it was Tony Bellew who made this observation'.

                  And it was very concerning performance vs Chisora III the way Fury refused to fight a semi-retired Chisora head on 'Even though during the fight build up, Fury stated that he would fight in this manner'.

                  At the time when Fury fought Whyte and Chisora 'There were multiple active Heavyweights who would of beaten both Whyte and Chisora in way more impressive fashion'.

                  Tyson Fury's two best performances since his comeback, Fury weighed in at over 270 + pounds 'Fury weighed in at 273 pounds vs Wilder II, and 277 pounds vs Wilder III'.

                  Those are the two performances and fights 'That transcended Fury's career, and he was prepared for those fights. Tyson Fury weighed in at 270 + pounds for both of those fights'.

                  Any other time Fury has weighed under 270 pounds, during his comeback 'The performances really have not been great. That was why Fury made the conscious decision to embrace his super heavyweight mass, it was a tactical move'.

                  And what I am telling you in this thread is? All the signs are there, that Tyson Fury and his team are uncertain on how to approach and prepare for this fight 'Fury for the first time in his career, is in a state of uncertainty regarding his abilities'.

                  Deathoftheclown, you are also uncertain 'Suddenly you are now criticising Fury's conditioning from pretty much his best fight performances since his comeback'.

                  Note: So by your reasoning you think the 260 + pound versions of Fury who fought Whyte and Chisora III 'Were better versions of Fury, than Wilder II & III'. Those were the two performances for me vs Chisora and Whyte ? Which I found very concerning for Tyson Fury. And I am not the only person to make this observation, Shane Mcguigan himself never rated those performances very highly'.

                  Both Whyte and Chisora, are fighters who are stylistically great match ups for Tyson Fury 'If a match maker, desired to make Fury look spectacular? Then you match him with fighters who can hardly move inside a boxing ring, and skill for skill are not really great boxers'.

                  Still Tyson Fury at 260 + pounds, was being found by Whyte inside the boxing ring 'For long as Whyte was in that fight, he was making it competitive. The Fluke knock-out, saved Fury from a potentially very underwhelming performance'.

                  And then Tyson Fury fought Derek Chisora III 'Who had just left team Hayemaker. Which was a clear sign, that he was no longer in the game to 100% win'. Oleksandr Usyk and Joseph Parker? I would say those two fighters fought the last two versions of Chisora, who trained with the intention of winning 100%.

                  Tyson Fury right now as we speak, from what I have seen 'Fury has gone into complete overdrive. Fury and his team have reacted in a panic to his performance vs Ngannou'.

                  I believe this move from Fury and his team, is potentially a tactical mistake 'For the reasons I have spoken about in-depth in my pervious posts' etc.





                  Write all the paragraphs you want, you'll look silly come may

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                    #19
                    Pretty ****** thread. Look what Happened to Ngannou the MMA GOAT who became that using only his punching, when he stepped up among today's heavyweight boxers. He was played with by Fury, and smashed nealy to death by Joshua, neither of whom can land the Knockout punch like Wilder can.

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