Roberto Duran vs Julio Cesar Chavez Sr at 135-140, who would have won?

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  • The plunger man
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    #21
    Duran would be to much for Chavez …..I like Chavez a lot but Duran was just a little better all round

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #22
      Duran by ko or stoppage.

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      • real raw
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        #23
        You guys are sleeping on Chavez

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        • STREET CLEANER
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          #24
          Both guys were special at their peak, very similar styles with Duran being more athletic. Chavez defense was far better at his peak consistently moving his hands and head while a forward offense.

          If I had to pick I would give Duran the edge because during his career he had the better victories but at 135 it would be a toss up. Both guys had gargantuan chins at that weight.

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            #25
            Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
            Both guys were special at their peak, very similar styles with Duran being more athletic. Chavez defense was far better at his peak consistently moving his hands and head while a forward offense.

            If I had to pick I would give Duran the edge because during his career he had the better victories but at 135 it would be a toss up. Both guys had gargantuan chins at that weight.
            What fights would you suggest to watch Roberto Duran at 140? I want to see if there is a significant shift in skill compared to lightweight but to do so he had to be tested by elite fighters to be able to tell. I am not really familiar with any those opponents he had fought with.
            Last edited by Malvado; 03-20-2024, 08:11 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by real raw
              Oh, you mean like Duran quit Leonard? lol.
              Yeah, I guess there's always the risk of Chavez Jr dancing on his toes and not engaging for the entire fight...

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                #27
                Originally posted by Feroz

                What fights would you suggest to watch Roberto Duran at 140? I want to see if there is a significant shift in skill compared to lightweight but to do so he had to be tested by elite fighters to be able to tell at the division which I am not really familiar with.
                He skipped 140. 135 to 147

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_

                  He skipped 140. 135 to 147
                  According to boxrec, his most notable fight at 140 (where he fought once there) was Edwin Viruet's brother Adolfo Viruet who was (20-1-2) and became champion by upsetting Monroe Brooks, who was 25-1-3 (15 KO's).

                  Also by the way I don't think Chavez being over the hill losing/quitting against a ATG in De La Hoya. Nor Duran quitting in the rematch against Leonard where he had to solely focused on dropping 15 kilograms in a few months then fight against a ATG in Sugar Ray (who could had also won without those conditions considering how close the first fight was) in a battle of attrition against a really slick boxer should be accounted here.

                  Duran and Chavez would be fighting being acclimated at the same division at 135-140 without any advantages in terms of reach, physically at their prime and stylistically are both infighters instead of fighting opponents of different styles.

                  Duran isn't that much taller between the two.
                  Last edited by Malvado; 03-20-2024, 08:58 PM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Feroz

                    What fights would you suggest to watch Roberto Duran at 140? I want to see if there is a significant shift in skill compared to lightweight but to do so he had to be tested by elite fighters to be able to tell. I am not really familiar with any those opponents he had fought with.
                    Duran jump from 135 to 147.

                    Buchanan, Viruet. There are not a lot of names in his resume at 135 but it was just the way he dominated making the other fighters fight him his way.
                    Last edited by STREET CLEANER; 03-20-2024, 08:24 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by STREET CLEANER

                      Duran jump from 135 to 147.

                      Buchanan, Viruet. There are not a lot of names in his resume at 135 but it was just the way he dominated making the other fighters fight him his way.
                      So basically he took a leap in another division after one fight, at least he acclimated and beat a tested fighter in Carlos Palomino before fighting Leonard, would had been a big risk. He had a way bigger winning streak at 135 than Chavez, but he really had intense battles when it came to biggest names, which although some could be classified HOF like (Bachunan, Fernandez and Esteban De Jesus X2), I think they are not that much ahead over the likes of Ramirez and Rosario who Chavez Sr straight up dominated.
                      Last edited by Malvado; 03-20-2024, 08:59 PM.

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