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Honest question. What is it about Canelo that makes him so popular?

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  • #61
    Originally posted by jqSide View Post
    On a more serious note, do you think there will never be any Canelo without favoritism? How do you think it will play out when the Mexican superstar retires?
    No idea. I hope it's better for the sport but I don't have much optimism that guys will fight enough, or make the fights we want to see, at least when we want to see them. It's the guys in the lower weight classes that seem to want to fight more often and make the best fights.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by jqSide View Post
      What opportunity? He didn't win and no torch was passed. His career should have ended by today's standard. He moved on. He genuinely thought he could win that fight not so much about getting longer vacations. And he didn't wait around. He was active while waiting.

      What can you say about the guys who lost to Canelo? Where are they now? They were given opportunity to take the torch as you were saying here. Where are they? Why didn't they become Canelo?
      The ones that beat him and were robbed or the bums he fought? He could have fought benavidez, what about Morrell Jr? He's been his mandatory for three years.
      Last edited by garfios; 03-06-2024, 02:23 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by garfios View Post
        The ones that beat him and were robbed or the bums he fought? He could have fought benavidez, what about Morrell Jr? He's been his mandatory for three years.
        Okay. Bivol beat him. No controversies. Did Bivol become a superstar? Where is the torch passing you were talking about here? What the heck happened there?

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        • #64
          Haha...Bivol beat him and he didn't become a superstar! Haha... couldn't even get a fight for like 2 years after that fight. You'd think everyone would jump at fighting Bivs, except Betervs. It's funny.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post

            You don't know anything about Mexican, Mexican Americans, so shut the f.uck about what you don't know about boy.
            I'm mixed race. South and Central Americans worship whiteness. The fellow was not lying. If I can think of all the Mexican boxers off the top of my head starting with Salvador Sanchez till today as a sample size, Canelo is the only one who has a European phenotype vs. a slightly Indigenous one. It is what it is.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by garfios View Post

              He's not hated, I think that the non believers in his prowess, me included, are fvking with the believers because they're so blind and easy to pick. It's more about the fanboys that the guy. People that knows boxing and have common sense can see what he is and has done in the past, corrup or incompetent judges, playing along with the corrupt organizations, just to make a buck. Can you believe he hasn't fight a mandatory for the WBA, WBC and IBF in three years, and the WBO mandatory appeared out of thin air, ryder. His fans keep finding excuses and we keep fvking with them.
              This is my issue. If Canelo wants to fight Crawford and Jake Paul it's up to him, I just won't watch. But he needs to start getting stripped of his belts.

              Obviously I would like to see Canelo - Benavidez but it's not Mayweather - Pacquiao and boxing survived the ridiculous marination of that fight.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by dan-b View Post

                This is my issue. If Canelo wants to fight Crawford and Jake Paul it's up to him, I just won't watch. But he needs to start getting stripped of his belts.

                Obviously I would like to see Canelo - Benavidez but it's not Mayweather - Pacquiao and boxing survived the ridiculous marination of that fight.
                That's all a fan can ask, fight or vacate. Keep the line moving, and let other fighters make some money to feed their families.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Tag, You're Hit View Post
                  You missed a couple:
                  All those dudes won legitimate world titles at some point in their careers. He also fought contenders like:
                  Austin Trout (Trout was the champ, not a contender, and I think he beat Canelo in a close fight)
                  John Ryder​ (old, domestic level fighter)

                  To me, Canelo's only impressive wins are:
                  2nd GGG fight (though, that could have gone either way - but it was a really good performance)
                  Callum Smith
                  Billy Joe Saunders
                  Caleb Plant​

                  With all the rest, you have to add an asterisk, like you did, Elastic Recoilz (old/past prime opponent, rehydration clauses, weight bullying, corrupt judging).

                  Canelo is a very good fighter, but not great. If you're great you don't need to stack the scales to win. What would his win-loss record be had he not stacked the scales?
                  - - When was U tagged in Shyte?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by jqSide View Post
                    Okay. Bivol beat him. No controversies. Did Bivol become a superstar? Where is the torch passing you were talking about here? What the heck happened there?
                    bivol only? What about ggg? Lara gave him a lesson in ring generalship, and defense and taught him not to pick another good technician, I guess he forgot the lesson and picked on bivol.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by jqSide View Post
                      I see. That's why people need to be careful in making claims they can't back up. It's one lesson to be learned. Kids say the darnedest things, but they're kids.
                      He didn't win more than three rounds versus Lara, and one guy, Mexican, had it 9-3 ginger, Floyd completely shut him down, and one judge had a draw, ggg shut him down another draw, he hasn't fought a real mandatory in three years and the soups haven't made him do it nor strip him of the belts, he threw his belt in the trash because he was avoiding ggg and the WBC rewarded him with a franchise belt, basically a pass for him to choose the bums he was seeking. There's more, but I just want you to read and see what you're going to reply and refute what I wrote.
                      Last edited by garfios; 03-06-2024, 04:38 PM.

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