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  • Yes, to bribe Nel o to fight benevidez, say he will be greater. But once Nell beats benavides then we can make excuses and say we had moment of madness when saying it.
    Or maybe Nell does so good that we will be convinced he's greater than chavez?
    Last edited by hugh grant; 03-01-2024, 06:02 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

      A name doesn't make the fighter, though its nice to have other greats as opponents to stamp the history books, but overall you have look at the entire career and watch them fight to decide for yourself , great is a subjective term, Ive seen a lot of fighters in 60 years in my book Canelo is a great fighter as is GGG, I don't really care to much about fan stuff, just on pure boxing I think they make it into the great category no problems at all.
      Like you said, subjective. I think they're good to be in the hof, not on the level of Hearns, SRL, SRR, Hagler, Duran, Napoles etc. I believe what makes a fighter is the boxers he chooses to fight, if they're in their prime and have a name, the better. There's a boxer that I can't recall right now, from the 80's-90's with over 100 wins, there's not a name in his resume.
      Last edited by garfios; 03-01-2024, 10:20 AM.

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      • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        Yes, to bribe Nel o to fight benevidez, say he will be greater. But once Nell beats benavides then we can make excuses and say we had moment of madness when saying it.
        Or maybe Nell does so good that we will be convinced he's greater than chavez?
        Nobody is going to make excuses if he beats benavidez. That narrative is an excuse in itself. "Dont fight him because you won't get the credit". How come he fought ryder, yildrim, Hatton, fielding and Gomez, did you give him credit for that?

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        • canelo is already greater than chavez sr... just because a guy has over 100 fights doesnt mean he's better... props to sr but canelo is greater.

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          • Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
            canelo is already greater than chavez sr... just because a guy has over 100 fights doesnt mean he's better... props to sr but canelo is greater.
            Greater in what sense? His greatest win is Jacobs, and it wasn't a wiped out.
            Last edited by garfios; 03-01-2024, 10:22 AM.

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            • Originally posted by garfios View Post

              Greater in what sense? His greatest win is Jacobs, and it wasn't a wiped out.
              greater as in a better overall fighter/boxer than chavez sr... i am not taking anything away from sr... with 100+ fights, that's hard to do.. but you have to also be honest.. 90% of the fighters on sr's resume aint really nothing to brag about.. canelo is a better fighter and will rank higher than chavez sr.
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              • Originally posted by garfios View Post

                Nobody is going to make excuses if he beats benavidez. That narrative is an excuse in itself. "Dont fight him because you won't get the credit". How come he fought ryder, yildrim, Hatton, fielding and Gomez, did you give him credit for that?
                All I'm saying is make Nell believe ( even if falsely) although it is a high risk fight, it is also a high reward fight. A very high reward.
                Look, all im trying to do is get fight made
                Last edited by hugh grant; 03-01-2024, 10:29 AM.
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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  Lol what are they gonna do? Revoke his citizenship.

                  Not buy his fight when he faces some bum. Yeah canelo will pocket a huge guarantee but when Hearns sees how much money he lost next fight negotiations will be harder for Canelo.

                  Canelo doesnt have infinite power in negotiations here, look what happened with PBC, they were at a standstill, canelo wouldnt fight anyone for the prices that could make them money so they dropped him.

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                  • Originally posted by elfag View Post


                    Not buy his fight when he faces some bum. Yeah canelo will pocket a huge guarantee but when Hearns sees how much money he lost next fight negotiations will be harder for Canelo.

                    Canelo doesnt have infinite power in negotiations here, look what happened with PBC, they were at a standstill, canelo wouldnt fight anyone for the prices that could make them money so they dropped him.
                    It could be better at DAZN but if something goes wrong then the fight could be delayed longer
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                    • Originally posted by elfag View Post


                      Not buy his fight when he faces some bum. Yeah canelo will pocket a huge guarantee but when Hearns sees how much money he lost next fight negotiations will be harder for Canelo.

                      Canelo doesnt have infinite power in negotiations here, look what happened with PBC, they were at a standstill, canelo wouldnt fight anyone for the prices that could make them money so they dropped him.
                      - - U making another public dump yet again…pheeeew!!!

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