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  • #31
    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

    the 2000s lol I was in the late 60s , the internet and social media has changed the world in a very big way, back in the day you were at a bar to watch a fight and fans were present if you wanted to talk the sht they do in here you are laying down hands, your only source of boxing news came in magazines there was no youtube or blogs all spinning a narrative, this new age behaviour is all about giving every idiot a voice, most of it is so fake and plastic is evolving, fakes propagating fakes and the people today swallow it all like big mouth Bass hitting a lure, its amazing to have seen it all unfold and youth have no clue to the mess it's all in, its not just boxing its everything.
    the limelight/spotlight effect really affected how everything turned out

    I can't imagine those fighters in the 20s or 30s that fought with a couple of photographers on site
    And their faces are probably not even the newspapers, just their name.

    I think society tend to underestimate how smartphones really gave every individual a platform and how it inflated individuality.
    Now everyone has their side. Everyone has their story. Demands increased. The need for egos to be stroked.

    It really was simple before all this.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PryorHawk View Post

      the limelight/spotlight effect really affected how everything turned out

      I can't imagine those fighters in the 20s or 30s that fought with a couple of photographers on site
      And their faces are probably not even the newspapers, just their name.

      I think society tend to underestimate how smartphones really gave every individual a platform and how it inflated individuality.
      Now everyone has their side. Everyone has their story. Demands increased. The need for egos to be stroked.

      It really was simple before all this.
      Yes simple and better the 70s was a great time, it wasn't as material or as ego-driven, the internet has allowed egos to run wild like a runaway freight train, and it wasn't as easy to sell a lie in the old days as it is today, I don't know where it's all heading but it's not a good place and it is going there fast.
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      • #33
        For me, over the past five years or so the UFC has really shone a light on just how pitiful the sport of boxing has become. It feels like promoters - and boxers themselves - are mugging off the fans more so than ever.

        One thing I really like about the UFC is that you often end up getting to know the fighters and following their careers in a natural, organic way without even trying to simply because you remember them from previous fights. I don't read or watch any promotional material aside from when they advertise upcoming cards on a broadcast, the fights themselves do the talking. It's amazing how much more easily invested you become when everyone is matched competitively.

        Boxers stay inactive then blame their promoters for doing a poor job marketing them. Just get in the ring! The best promotion you can get is the self-promotion when you fight. The inactivity and all the BS it takes to get a fight on just kills it for me these days, it's really getting harder and harder to care.
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        • #34
          Well we have the face of the sport canelo refusing to defend against the best opponents in his weightclass

          the heavyweights turning the division into a joke, fury being yhe worst culprit

          Social media crybabies like garcia and shakur throeing their toys out of the pram.

          The best rarely fighting the best

          Charlo is ment to be the best at middle but gets to avoid defending his belt for over 2 years

          Wbc silly belts, wba secondary belts.

          Could list more to be honest, some of the eastern europeans like usyk , bivol and beterbiev seem to be doing the sport justice as are some of the asian fighters like nakatani and inoue. But even those guys probably are too inactive

          The sports definitely seen better days

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          • #35
            atleast we are getting unification fights. there was a long time where 175 was just roy jones fighting bums. there wasnt anyone there who could challenge him it was a weak division. and him and hopkins would argue about split for the rematch for almost 20 years.

            then 168 was usually pretty weak and filled with eurobums. calzaghe era was him vs the eurobums, post calzaghe they had super 6 then ward fought 1 bum a year for 5 years. so canelos run unifying the division in a year before he pussied out against david was cool.

            then early 2000s when don king still had power him and lennox would not do business because he always wanted to get lennox under a multi fight deal to face a bum like john ruiz and lennox wasnt falling for that nonsense, so the titles were split and lennox would never unify with a ruiz or byrd, when he dominated that era and could have been undisputed but all the boxing politics gets in the way.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by dan-b View Post

              Why place so much emphasis on a fighter's ability to collect four corrupt sanctioning body belts? Quality of opposition is more important.

              Plus in nearly all of those so-called "undisputed" scenarios there were secondary belt holders active in the weight class, so the only thing clarified was sanctioning body greed.

              yeah if someone gets all the belts i will give them credit but i dont fault anyone for not being undisputed, the ABCs make it impossible and if they really dont want a guy to get all the belts they can easily do that.


              Crawford - striped him of a belt like 1 month after unifying and gave away his belt to Boots, cong**** crawford you were undisputed champion for a month even though you never lost a fight....

              Bivol - after canelo fought him for his belt at 175, told him that if he rematches Canelo at 168 that the WBC belt wont be on the line so if he wins he wouldnt be undisputed, canelo could lose and still be a champion. some lame excuse about the russia-ukraine war which has been the new excuse for ABCs to pick and choose when they wanted to make belts available.


              Benevidez- David is the 168 wbc mandatory but sulaimon is already making comments, excuses and plans for how canelo isnt going to be striped for not fighting david and is trying to get him up to 175 to go fight for that belt.
              Last edited by elfag; 02-28-2024, 09:10 AM.
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