Comments Thread For: Garcia: I Think Joshua Will Knock Ngannou Out

[juggernaut666]

The same story about Fury's training camp isn't shared by English champion Solomon Dacres, as he insisted that Fury's dad wasn't around for most of the preparations. "John wasn’t really in the camp. It’s all good saying it in hindsight. I was there for five weeks. We were sparring hard, doing 12, 15 round sessions," he told Seconds out .

Sorry but this narrative is getting old Dacres is a straight shooter I certainly believe him over Bakole who seems to me another fibber and was probably doing damage control for the Fury camp .

Does anyone really believe Sugar Hill is not going to train Fury properly while in the camp ? This is hilarious at least the forum has a prepared excuse if Joshua once again looks dominant .

[Atypicalbrit]

The same story about Fury's training camp isn't shared by English champion Solomon Dacres, as he insisted that Fury's dad wasn't around for most of the preparations. "John wasn’t really in the camp. It’s all good saying it in hindsight. I was there for five weeks. We were sparring hard, doing 12, 15 round sessions," he told Seconds out .

Sorry but this narrative is getting old Dacres is a straight shooter I certainly believe him over Bakole who seems to me another fibber and was probably doing damage control for the Fury camp .

Does anyone really believe Sugar Hill is not going to train Fury properly while in the camp ? This is hilarious at least the forum has a prepared excuse if Joshua once again looks dominant .

What I'm going to belive is my own eyes.

10 weeks before the fight, Fury showed up to the press conference and he was MASSIVE, well over 300lbs

At the weigh in he had lost weight but his physique looked terrible, even for him, he was soft and had that skinny Fat look.

And in rounds 1 and 2 while Ngannou was doing nothing but standing still in the ring I said to my dad that fury looked terrible and was lucky he was only fighting Ngannou, and this was before Ngannou had landed anything.

If you want to belive this and that account and kid yourself that fury was in peak shape for Ngannou then go ahead, anyone with one iota of common sense and a functioning pair of eyes knows he wasn't.

[juggernaut666]

What I'm going to belive is my own eyes.

10 weeks before the fight, Fury showed up to the press conference and he was MASSIVE, well over 300lbs

At the weigh in he had lost weight but his physique looked terrible, even for him, he was soft and had that skinny Fat look.

And in rounds 1 and 2 while Ngannou was doing nothing but standing still in the ring I said to my dad that fury looked terrible and was lucky he was only fighting Ngannou, and this was before Ngannou had landed anything.

If you want to belive this and that account and kid yourself that fury was in peak shape for Ngannou then go ahead, anyone with one iota of common sense and a functioning pair of eyes knows he wasn't.

Well I don’t have to believe anything you got a real guy in his camp telling you what happened so there is no discussion here . Lol

[PRINCEKOOL]

What I'm going to belive is my own eyes.

10 weeks before the fight, Fury showed up to the press conference and he was MASSIVE, well over 300lbs

At the weigh in he had lost weight but his physique looked terrible, even for him, he was soft and had that skinny Fat look.

And in rounds 1 and 2 while Ngannou was doing nothing but standing still in the ring I said to my dad that fury looked terrible and was lucky he was only fighting Ngannou, and this was before Ngannou had landed anything.

If you want to belive this and that account and kid yourself that fury was in peak shape for Ngannou then go ahead, anyone with one iota of common sense and a functioning pair of eyes knows he wasn't.

Tyson Fury was in his usual condition, of this past few years 'Fury weighed in at 277 pounds, fully clothed'.

So Fury real fight weight was closer to 275 to 274 pounds approximately 'Could of been even lighter'.

Fury at the launch press conference, also appeared to be in reasonable condition 'For him, we cannot really compare Tyson Fury to other Heavyweights'.

It is well documented that Tyson Fury, is at this stage of his career 'Regularly in the gym training, and ticking over'.

Fury may play around with other activities in-between fights 'But Fury has stated himself, that training benefits him in many ways with his circumstance in life'.

You need to stop with this narrative, that Tyson Fury did not train for Francis Ngannou 'Was Fury in his absolute best condition? No. But he was for sure in fight condition'.

When Tyson Fury does not train, it is also well documented 'Fury would be close to 400 pounds, is that the type of condition you are trying to claim Fury was in come the launch press conference of Ngannou vs Fury? Tyson Fury clearly was not in that type of condition, Fury was in his usual in between fight condition of late'.

Tyson Fury endured a 12 week training camp, 3 months of high level training 'With a great team, and experts in their field working with him'.

This is the real reason why? That performance vs Francis Ngannou has hit Tyson Fury, his hardcore fans and the boxing World extremely hard.

If Tyson Fury was this all-time great talent, one of the best most formidable fighters in history. Then even if Fury was not in his best condition, even if he was at 70% 'Fury should of beaten Francis Ngannou, who had no prior professional boxing experience at that time'.

Tyson Fury should of still be able to legitimately for real win vs Francis Ngannou 'Fury was not able to achieve this, Fury was given the decision. The statistics of the fight show that Francis Ngannou won the fight 'Ngannou landed the most power punches, inflicted the most damage and scored a knock-down'.

We witnessed Mike Tyson come out of jail in the 90's, was he in his best ever condition? No. But he was in fight condition. Mike Tyson still was able to win in fights when he was clearly not in his best condition vs solid level fighters such as 'Francis Botha and Andrew Golota'.

That is what all-time fighters, and talents are able to do.

The issue hardcore Fury fans are dealing with currently right now 'Is that they do not want to accept, that Tyson Fury ability wise is not the level of fighter they have always claimed he is'.

Is Tyson Fury a great fighter in terms of this Heavyweight era? Yes of course. Was he at any stage of his career, miles better than Anthony Joshua and all of his other closet competition? No, there is not enough consistent evidence in his career to prove and suggest this'.

Note: As a result of Fury's performance vs Ngannnou, I believe right now 'Tyson Fury and his team have reacted in a panic and gone into complete overdrive'. When really all they needed to do, was to put Tyson Fury through another training camp with no dramatic altercations.

If we can take any positives away from Fury's performance vs Ngannou 'One of the main positives for me was, that Fury was already in fight condition 4 months ago. Whether you want to accept his or not, it is legitimate fact'.

Tyson Fury was in reasonable fight condition come October 28th 2023 'Fighters don't get up off the deck, to then fight there way back into a fight without being in condition'.

So I believe Fury and his team, should of just focused on those positives 'And put themselves through another systematic training camp for Oleksandr Uysk February 17th'. Which would of seen Fury most likely come into that fight, a more solid and refined Tyson Fury.

For me that is the best way Tyson Fury can prepare for this fight 'It is the most solid tactic, and wise way to approach the fight'.

But instead, I believe Fury and his team have reacted in a panic 'And have gone into complete overdrive, which potentially will lead to Fury being a over trained state for this fight'.

We have seen it before historically, with fighters who shared similar traits to Tyson Fury 'They all at some stage in their career, suddenly start reacting in a panic. They decide suddenly after years of training a certain way, and at a particular intensity? They make a decision, to just take off and go into complete overdrive'.

I have never witnessed that type of behaviour 'Work out for those type of fighter, nowhere near to the level their fans will campaign'.

Rid**** Bowe reacted in a panic after his performance vs Andrew Golota I 'The rematch as a great fight, but Bowe's durability had decreased dramatically. Bowe apparently came into training camp, at 280 + pounds and come fight night he was 235 pounds'.

When Ricky Hatton came back to fight vs Vyacheslav Senchenko 'Hatton went into complete overdrive in training. Ricky Hatton within his lifestyle from from 0-100, and all of his fans and the media that don't really understand boxing or training? They all believe this would be straight forward for Hatton'.

Ricky Hatton lost his fight vs Vyacheslav Senchenko not because he was not good enough 'It was because he was overstrained, and his comeback was not really structure in the right way in my opinion'.

If Ricky Hatton would of had 1-2 fights, before fighting Senchenko 'He would of beaten him, in my opinion'.

Returning back to Tyson Fury: I just believe that Fury, in his fight preparation for Oleksandr Uysk February 17th 'Tyson Fury was in complete overdrive'. And it was this state which most likely lead to him being ****** up in sparring, you only have to look at the video footage of the spar 'Fury is all over the place'.

All the signs are there, anyone that understands boxing 'Knows what I am talking about'.

Tyson Fury's and his team, don't know which way to go 'They are not 100% certain on how to approach this fight vs Oleksandr Uysk'.

Do we just endure another training camp, and make no drastic altercations 'Solidify and refined Fury's conditioning. Or? Do we go into complete overdrive, after years of not living and training at that intensity?'.

This fight postponement for Tyson Fury 'For me this the pivotal moment in this fight preparation'.

Tyson Fury has always been a good reader of a fight, Fury has always been extremely certain of his abilities 'In that regard, he is similar to Muhammad Ali'. Fury once stated that, really he only needs a 6 week training camp to prepare for a fight 'And in all honesty, I know that Fury is being honesty with that statement'.

I have watched Tyson Fury's entire career 'But this is the first time, I have seen him uncertain of his own abilities. This is the first time ever, I have seen Fury uncertain of which way to go on how to approach a fight'.

This is why the postponement is a very important time for Tyson Fury 'The decisions he and his team make right now, which will effect the trajectory of his preparation. They are going to result in him ether winning or losing this fight'.

For me, I think Tyson Fury will ether win or lose this fight in training camp 'And this won't be due to lack of effort, it is actually inexperience'.

Come fight week, I can envision 'It ether being very apparent that Fury has endured a solid training camp, or something is way off' etc.

[charliepaerker]

Fury tried to be cute against Ngannou. AJ gonna put him on the backfoot early and wear Ngannou out

[Roberto Vasquez]

I couldn't agree more with you. I find it ridiculous that some folks are saying Greedy Belly's poor performance vs Ngannou was due to poor preparation despite the fact that he has said that he a good 6 weeks camp. Ngannou was responsible for his poor performance by taking away his main weapons, weight bullying, grappling and clinching. If you take those three things Greedy Belly is just nothing but a decent boxer with pillow fists despite his size and weight.

Yes Fury is the victim of his own misfortune. He never fights anyone he can sharpen his skills against. Now he is fighting Usyk... All Fury will do is try to hug and grab Usyk all fight.