Comments Thread For: Malignaggi Says Unbeaten Super Middleweight Stars Serve To Highlight Boxing's Shortcomings

[Bronx2245]

This was a last minute supposed cherry pick after Big Baby tested dirty. Al almost never works with Eddie or Fishnets.

The point is that Al does work with other promoters, when he chooses. We just saw Tank vs. Garcia, and Fulton vs. Inoue, just last year!

[JLC]

This is the right answer.

Keef fought Swift and Porter.

Swift fought PRIME Khan, Keef, Porter, Spence, Guerrero, PRIME Peterson.

Porter fought Spence, Crawford, Swift, Keef, Porter, Broner, PRIME Brook, Berto, Paulie, etc etc etc.

Spence fought Crawford, Porter, PRIME Brook, PRIME Swift, Ugas, Peterson.

Broner fought Paulie, Porter, Chino, Manny.


Right now, you think about these undefeated guys. By waiting for Canelo, it just puts him over, because what happens if he takes their '0' one by one? NSB will say "well those guys didn't fight anybody" - but that's not Canelo's fault, that's theirs for waiting on the cash.

Look what happened to Billy Juice Saunders. NSB trashed him after he got his face smashed by Canelo because "he didn't fight anybody" - but that's Saunders' fault for sitting out after getting signature wins.

Look what happened with Andrade. Gets smashed by Benavidez, NSB calls Andrade a protected bum who got exposed. The truth is, Benavidez just outmuscled him, but Andrade was damn sure in the fight. Waiting so long to make the fight is why people think Andrade was protected. He wasn't. But he was never tested, either.

The other problem is when you have guys like Bum****a who SHOULDN'T be undefeated, talking about how they'd beat Canelo.


So no, it's not Canelo's fault. Everyone else is doing it wrong because they're afraid of taking an L and costing themselves that opportunity. But if you go down swinging and you build your profile, you might still get the call.

Look at John Ryder - he got the call despite multiple L's and to this day ("TILL THIS DAY!") remains one of the very few fighters to give Canelo problems in the ring.

Yessir. Canelo has done his thing in there.

Trout
Lara
Floyd
Cotto
GGG


these were all pretty tough fights at the time he took them, and Trout, Lara, and the GGG rematch were pretty easily avoidable if he chose to duck them.

this ain’t to say David hasn’t fought anybody. I think Plant was close enough to his prime / in his prime where that was a solid win. Andrade not as much but it’s respectable. These guys just should be doing more, is all.

[PRchamp]

This is the consequence of all the attention/money revolving around one fighter. The cash-cow has an extraordinary amount of responsibility for the health of boxing, so Canelo will get an extraordinary amount of criticism. What fans don't like to acknowledge.....Benavidez would strategize just like Canelo if he wielded the same power. Think about who Benavidez has fought: Lemiuex, a former MW slugger. Andrade, a pure boxer campaigning at his 3rd weight. Plant, a pure boxer whom Canelo already KO'ed. Who did Benavidez want to fight? Munguia, a slugger campaigning at his 3rd weight...and Jermall Charlo, a basket-case campaigning at his 3rd weight. Who is Benavidez NOT fighting? David Morrell, a boxer-puncher and Christian Mbilli, a stocky pressure-fighter. Benavidez's team is carefully choosing his opponents, and he's gotten away with it because the spotlight is all on Canelo. The contenders aren't scrutinized nearly as much as the titlists.

Canelo beat Mathew Hatton for a world title for gods sakes. A guy who never fought at 154 but out of nowhere got a vacant title shot against Canelo.

Canelo feasted on either old faded fighters with a name who desperately needed a payday or smaller fighters moving up 2-3 weight classes.

Canelo made his own weight class 155lb and fought a career 140lb Amir Khan and it was listed as a middleweight fight. Come on man sit down and shut up clown.

just stop man enough of the defending this farce of a face of boxing

[garfios]

This is the consequence of all the attention/money revolving around one fighter. The cash-cow has an extraordinary amount of responsibility for the health of boxing, so Canelo will get an extraordinary amount of criticism. What fans don't like to acknowledge.....Benavidez would strategize just like Canelo if he wielded the same power. Think about who Benavidez has fought: Lemiuex, a former MW slugger. Andrade, a pure boxer campaigning at his 3rd weight. Plant, a pure boxer whom Canelo already KO'ed. Who did Benavidez want to fight? Munguia, a slugger campaigning at his 3rd weight...and Jermall Charlo, a basket-case campaigning at his 3rd weight. Who is Benavidez NOT fighting? David Morrell, a boxer-puncher and Christian Mbilli, a stocky pressure-fighter. Benavidez's team is carefully choosing his opponents, and he's gotten away with it because the spotlight is all on Canelo. The contenders aren't scrutinized nearly as much as the titlists.

I'm with you in most of what you wrote, but canelo is the face of boxing and he doesn't do any favors to the sport facing the likes of ryder and two divisions down charlo. He doesn't want to face benavidez, pick someone else from the division, mbili or Morell jr would jump at the opportunity, show those guys coming up that they need to start facing each other. And the one leading the pack will always be scrutinized more than the ones on the bottom.

[BlackRobb]

The point is that Al does work with other promoters, when he chooses. We just saw Tank vs. Garcia, and Fulton vs. Inoue, just last year!

Garcia fills arenas and sells PPVs. Fulton expressly asked Al to make the Inoue fight.

[Bronx2245]

Garcia fills arenas and sells PPVs. Fulton expressly asked Al to make the Inoue fight.

Al gave his blessing for both fights! That's was great for the sport!

[Combat Talk Radio]

Canelo beat Mathew Hatton for a world title for gods sakes. A guy who never fought at 154 but out of nowhere got a vacant title shot against Canelo.

Canelo feasted on either old faded fighters with a name who desperately needed a payday or smaller fighters moving up 2-3 weight classes.

Canelo made his own weight class 155lb and fought a career 140lb Amir Khan and it was listed as a middleweight fight. Come on man sit down and shut up clown.

just stop man enough of the defending this farce of a face of boxing

Flaw with the argument:

Consider WHY Canelo is in that position.

Consider that other fighters have done and would do the same.

Canelo was already a star when he fought Floyd. He was actively fighting any and every guy he could get in there.

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this is a snippet of his most notable wins right before Floyd. The pattern is that almost every name listed is connected - meaning, they fought another name on the list.

That’s the point. The modern era isn’t fighting each other.