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How did Roy Jones Jr not get knocked down by this punch from James Toney

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  • #31
    Originally posted by The Bay Bomber View Post

    Around 6:10 into the video. Looks like an incredible shot while Toney had his body turned. Was it cause Roy rolled with the punch or it just didn't hit as cleanly as it looked. Or maybe his chin was just not bad in his prime
    Easy, because the punch didn't even touch Roy's face. If it had, then you would have at least seen Roy's head move. That was a clear miss.

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    • #32
      Glancing blow. The more impressive part is how he avoided being hit flushed. That came out of nowhere.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
        I have a question. I am not going to dispute that the 25lbs of muscle loss. Did not effect Roy in a negative way. But, IMO it sounds like some fans believe the muscle loss was the reason Roy got KO by Tarver. So my question is if that is the reason then why did he not get KO'd by Tarver in the first fight? Or atleast a knockdown in a fight that went 12rds?
        cuz nothing landed quie as cleanly. but roy was dead tired in that fight.. never the same

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        • #34
          Thats a glancing blow, not to mention an arm punch and it landed on the end of the punch. I wouldnt fall from that.

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          • #35
            Jones had a solid chin in his day but this video isn't quite the example you're looking for.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by mangler View Post
              Prime RJ was simply a beast.
              Yea he was no doubt about it

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              • #37
                Toney should have thrown more punches there... He just sorta stopped after he tagged him.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by robjr View Post
                  cuz nothing landed quie as cleanly. but roy was dead tired in that fight.. never the same
                  Dead tired? I thought Roy won the last 2rds. I don't know bro if he was 'dead tired' would of lost round 11 and 12 against Tarver.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    Dead tired? I thought Roy won the last 2rds. I don't know bro if he was 'dead tired' would of lost round 11 and 12 against Tarver.
                    oh he was, It was just all heart

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      I have a question. I am not going to dispute that the 25lbs of muscle loss. Did not effect Roy in a negative way. But, IMO it sounds like some fans believe the muscle loss was the reason Roy got KO by Tarver. So my question is if that is the reason then why did he not get KO'd by Tarver in the first fight? Or atleast a knockdown in a fight that went 12rds?
                      I found this old interview Mackie on btalk. Yall can check the achives to find it 6/12/08. He pretty much talking about Roy saying his body wasn't right etc. Very informative interview.

                      What happened to Roy Jones when he went back down to light-heavyweight to fight Tarver after you had helped him move up and beat Ruiz for the heavyweight title?



                      You have to remember Roy is such a talented athlete. The muscle that was put on is very difficult to take off. It was a very tough fight. Draining to anyone but he ended up winning. The same thing happended to Tarver when he did the Rocky movie. He was in the 220s then he came down and he was compromised against Bernard. I would have liked to see Roy stay at heavyweight, and I told him that. I think Roy would have beaten Tyson. I think Roy would have beaten Holyfield, but the fights weren't there. Muscle is not easy to take off, it affects your immune system.



                      How much did Roy weigh for the Ruiz fight?



                      200 lbs.



                      There was a story circulating he had weights in his pocket and he really weighed 193.



                      Before we went down for the weigh-in we were all kidding what Roy would weigh. Roy had been in the range of 199-200. What happned was Roy got on the scale and a fight broke out between Alton Merkerson and Ruiz's camp. Mark Ratner who was doing the weigh-in never let the scale adjust because the fight had broke out. I know Mark, and told him that's not his weight you should correct it. When Roy went to the hotel room and got on the scale he was laughing and saying "I can't believe it". He takes his shirt off and steps on the scale, and this is on the documentary ESPN did called "The Sweet Science". Mark Ratner was there too. I told him to call HBO so they wouldn't think it was rebound weight and they mentioned that on the broadcast

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