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Originally posted by Smash View Post
A promoter putting on a show wanting their star guy or just their guy under contract to win is not really that elaborate, judges know they will not be picked for the big fights if they go against that grain, no need for brown envelopes in this case really eitherSmash likes this.
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Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post
That's even worse if looking at both ring and video. Cause that would only make sense if all 3 judges look at the ring and tv same time or they can be judging different v***s
More judges is a better idea.
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Sulaiman has a lot to be criticised for, but I wouldn't say the other federations are any better - they're utter holes, but they're otherwise.
The good thing about Mauricio is that he dares to talk about innovations, changes... And that's not always a bad thing, because boxing in some aspects is outdated by a century - it's not traditions and it's not a good thing.
Yeah - why not have 5 judges instead of 3? Precisely because it is expensive to bribe more judges. Why not use CompuBox from them in the final decision if the match is close? Why not have committees on every controversial judging decision? Why shouldn't there be no declaring fights "NC" under crooked referees - Pabon is a great example of one: unless he's corrupt, or incompetent and corrupt: the guy judged Klitschko-Povetkin a clean fight; ruled a low blow in Usyk's second fight with Joshua; similarly ruled in Usyk's favor against Dubois... My how can you not think he's a Ukrainian lackey?
Well, instant replay is difficult to introduce into boxing due to the nature of the sport - the outcome and result are not determined by the subject matter that opponents throw around (tennis, volleyball, football, etc).
Side referee(s) could be introduced to have a look over different cameras and thus feed information to the main referee in controversial situations, which remains particularly to be introduced just because of the specifics but could remain valid for possibly changing the result afterwards. Yes, some will say that post facto is late (no - it's not) or sucks - perfect! This will push the referees themselves to play more adequately/quality.
The WBSS had a fourth referee to change a tie - why force a winner? But the fans are fine with these utterly ridiculous rules: they included a countback method in the event of a draw even after the fourth referee's decision. And it was under those ridiculous rules that Usyk became a unified champion, but when I say the man always took the shortcut to false greatness, various fanboys jump in offended...
In short: raising questions about the big flaws in boxing, the current incompetency of some professionals and corruption in this sport is a good thing.
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Well, hell, why stop at 6 judges? None of these imbeciles realize that the #1 problem in boxing scoring is the scoring system itself. There will always be controversy when you tell people that there are 4 different things to score. Only one of the stated scoring criterion actually matters, and that's clean, hard punching. The others (defense, ring generalship, 'effective aggression) are incidental to clean, hard punching. What other sport has competing scoring criteria?Last edited by TheOneAboveAll; 02-19-2024, 04:39 PM.
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Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View PostWell, hell, why stop at 6 judges? None of these imbeciles realize that the #1 problem in boxing scoring is the scoring system itself. There will always be controversy when you tell people that there are 4 different things to score. Only one of the stated scoring criterion actually matters, and that's clean, hard punching. The others (defense, ring generalship, 'effective aggression) are incidental to clean, hard punching. What other sport has competing scoring criteria?
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Originally posted by sidefx996 View Post
Do even Fury fans think this is going to happen in time? Why not just set a more reasonable date from the get go to allow the damned thing to heal??
May is probably not enough time to allow a cut like the one Fury is supposed to have to heal which is what begs the question, along with Fury's lack of credibility and blatant lies and general nonsense, is it just more mind games by Fury knowing how bad he looked against Ngannou coupled with the fact that he knows Usyk has been training hard for the most important fight of his life.dan-b likes this.
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