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  • #21
    Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

    Mbilli is with Eye of the Tiger
    Being co promoted with Top Rank if I’m not mistaken
    Who is the Arab you speak of ?
    Eyes Of the Tiger owner Camille Estephan​, he is from Lebanon

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    • #22
      Originally posted by _Jordan_ View Post

      Eyes Of the Tiger owner Camille Estephan​, he is from Lebanon
      Yes I know that but I’ve never heard he’s a difficult man
      I know he runs a tight ship but can be logical from what I was told

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      • #23
        Most likely you may be right, I shouldn't have used the word"dificult" without searching by myself, I heard it in boxing podcast when they were talking about Mbilli and Basinyan but both of them fight fairly often, maybe he becomes difficult when it comes to seal a fight against a risky fighter, one thing I noticed is while people said that Morrel haven't faced any good opponents he fought WBA # 1 Allen and then Aidos who became # 1 after Allen lost, so he fought his best available foes, I hope his managers at least keep moving him forward

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        • #24
          Weird comparison Pero & Usyk lol.

          Kid gots talent tho, but idk about Usyk level talent. And thats not even some kind of insult Usyk is gonna be a HOF guy & could be a 2 weight division undisputed champion in a couple mos. Thats a comparison you shouldn't be making willy nilly on a guy whos done nothing of much substance yet.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by garfios View Post

            Do you know how hard is for Cubans to get decente fights?
            Cubans got a unique & hard road up for how much talent/skill the avg top ten potential guy has.

            The US is more of a xenophobic nation than ppl like to talk about so being an "other" here is making things harder from day 1. Then unlike with Mexicans or PR's they don't really have a built in fanbase that'll make them draws to entice ppl to fight them for a sexy check. Then that Cuban style isn't seen as an exciting style to bring in a lot of fans like it did for popular past "others" like Manny & GGG that didn't have that built in base.

            Cubans got a uphill battle for boxing success & there would have probably been more Cuban belt holders or guys who got to belt fights sooner if they hadn't been Cuban or there wasnt so many barriers to them getting bigger fights.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by _Jordan_ View Post

              For what I know that was 3 years ago when Morrel beat Allen and had 3 fights, Boxeo Urbano(an Spanish boxing podcast) had today an interview with Samson Leckowish(Benavides Manager) and he said both are young and lots of risk, he said that fight is not worth if is not for a major title, Cesar Peña(the interviewer) asked him then: well, are saying that we won't see Benavides vs Morrell Jr in 2024? - to what he replied: is veey possible they fight this year, it all depends on Canelo cuz I gotta fulfill Benavides's 2 fights per year contract.. they both won't find rivals, they most likely will have to fight eachother, is the easiest fight to do, Munguia is Golden Boy and Dazn, I don't think PBC who just got a contract with Amazon Prime would give up and give the fight to their competition, Mbilli is with an Arab manager who is know for being dificult, Morrell is at good pace, what would be great news for him would be Gilberto Mendoza an the WBA to strip Canelo of the WBA and mandate a fight with Mbilli or Diego Pacheco, that would be great for us, Benavides isn't ranked high on the WBA but if the WBA belt is up for takers Samson Peinotions said he would jump on it
              I read the same thing. These guys are something else. They need to start chasing greatness and the money will come. Everyone is waiting for canelo, not Morell jr because it is obvious he wants benavidez, these alphabet soups need to start stripping canelo which will be the only way that the 168lbs division will move forward, is stagnant. The Cuban mentioned after his fight with agbeko that he was open to fighting mbilli if benavidez didn't pan out, I can't see what good is canelo's for boxing.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by _Jordan_ View Post
                Most likely you may be right, I shouldn't have used the word"dificult" without searching by myself, I heard it in boxing podcast when they were talking about Mbilli and Basinyan but both of them fight fairly often, maybe he becomes difficult when it comes to seal a fight against a risky fighter, one thing I noticed is while people said that Morrel haven't faced any good opponents he fought WBA # 1 Allen and then Aidos who became # 1 after Allen lost, so he fought his best available foes, I hope his managers at least keep moving him forward
                One thing as Edp stated is Eott keeps their fighters busy although against chitty opposition
                Hoping Mbilli gets a call for a big fight , deserves it

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by garfios View Post

                  I read the same thing. These guys are something else. They need to start chasing greatness and the money will come. Everyone is waiting for canelo, not Morell jr because it is obvious he wants benavidez, these alphabet soups need to start stripping canelo which will be the only way that the 168lbs division will move forward, is stagnant. The Cuban mentioned after his fight with agbeko that he was open to fighting mbilli if benavidez didn't pan out, I can't see what good is canelo's for boxing.
                  I was reading opnions on the Morrell Jr struggling to get opponents and oportunities are out of the table for the next fight and I heard something interesting, he could go first to 175 and try to land a fight with # 1 or # 2 Ranked by the WBA and right after fight the winner of Beterbiev vs Bivol, Bivol is not a KO artist and Beterbiev is 40, he could try there and he won't have the size issue he is facing now, if Canelo never fight Benavides and Benavides don't fight Morrell there is nothing else for him in 168, he would get delayed

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by _Jordan_ View Post

                    I was reading opnions on the Morrell Jr struggling to get opponents and oportunities are out of the table for the next fight and I heard something interesting, he could go first to 175 and try to land a fight with # 1 or # 2 Ranked by the WBA and right after fight the winner of Beterbiev vs Bivol, Bivol is not a KO artist and Beterbiev is 40, he could try there and he won't have the size issue he is facing now, if Canelo never fight Benavides and Benavides don't fight Morrell there is nothing else for him in 168, he would get delayed
                    eventually that will be an option. If he can make the weight without any trouble, he should fight whoever wants to share the ring with him, and definately they should sue the WBA, ginger is holding the whole division hostage and is handicapping the ability of making money, especially for those that are at the gate already, he's clogging the natural flow of the boxers moving up the ladder.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post

                      Boxing is a lot more tactical than other sports. It's about knowing what to do in any situation, staying composed etc.

                      IF (and it really is an if) you look after your body and stay well preserved, it's possible that your experience advantage outpaces physical decline into your 30s for a while.


                      Good point.

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