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  • #11
    Joshua has got the power to make this fight different from Furys fight, but will need to very careful of that fast strike power that have taken so many guys out , but I think now we know what we are dealing with Ben will have a strong game plan of intelligent boxing and moving and breaking him down for a late stoppage.This one's worth watching as Ngannou is always going to be dangerous enough to give the top boxers trouble and Joshua hasn't had a hitter in front of him since Ruiz .Don't expect Joshua to be so aggressive as with Wallin he knew he had his measure but Ngannou brings fight ending power , so Joshua will have to fight clever and hopefully do a number on this MMA guy.

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    • #12
      Fury should be able to take training a little easier and still win easy. Furys trained boxing more hours in his lifetime so a training camp can't mean that much.
      Of course Josh should win, what reason can we have to make Francis favourite?
      Last edited by hugh grant; 02-15-2024, 07:19 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        Fury should be able to take training a little easier and still win easy. Restrained boxing more hours in his lifetime so a training camp can't mean that much.
        Of course Josh should win, what reason can we have to make Francis favourite?
        Make Francis favourite, in a word hype.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by thack View Post
          Joshua has got the power to make this fight different from Furys fight, but will need to very careful of that fast strike power that have taken so many guys out , but I think now we know what we are dealing with Ben will have a strong game plan of intelligent boxing and moving and breaking him down for a late stoppage.This one's worth watching as Ngannou is always going to be dangerous enough to give the top boxers trouble and Joshua hasn't had a hitter in front of him since Ruiz .Don't expect Joshua to be so aggressive as with Wallin he knew he had his measure but Ngannou brings fight ending power , so Joshua will have to fight clever and hopefully do a number on this MMA guy.
          AJ is in probably his best boxing form for a long time and seems to in a good place mentally, for a HW he is athletic and can box with good technique he is also going into his 4th fight in a year, If I had to bet my life on one of them Id be on AJ to stop him.
          Last edited by Roadblock; 02-14-2024, 05:29 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

            AJ is in probably his best boxing form for a long time and seems to in a good place mentally, for a HW he is athletic and can box with good technique he is also going into his 4th fight in a year, If I had to bet my life on one of them Id be on AJ to stop him.
            I think you'll live..
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            • #16
              Originally posted by TreD View Post
              I think this fight is more dangerous, and rewarding, for Joshua than it was for Fury.

              Fury had no idea, and didn't prepare, and was embarrassed.

              If Joshua is embarrassed, it'll plummet his stock. But if he dismantles Francis, it'll stir the pot and get the rumblings for the Fury-Joshua fight to take place.

              Rooting for Joshua to win, and Francis to prove he's the third best Heavyweight. Joshua-Fury, Francis-Zhang co-main event.
              If Francis is the third best, and you think AJ would be ahead pf him for neating him, then what about Usyk, who would've beat the man who beat the man?

              A little silly here I think. And really Id like to see Francis against some other top 10 hws too. Ultimately, I dont see how losing gives you a place at the top.

              Right now he's 0-1. Not exactly an admirable record.
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              • #17
                Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                Didnt Miocic have him on ***** street a couple of times and he was 30lbs lighter
                Nah. He got hit with some hard shots in both fights and taken off balance at times but he ate them.

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                In the rematch he ate a big shot flush when he rushed in to finish and it backed him for like half a second before he landed the killing blow.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                  Make Francis favourite, in a word hype.
                  Josh doesn't even need a training camp to beat francis, josh just needs endurance training and strength training don't need sparring. Maybe a bit of pad work.
                  But, like fury, he don't need proper camp. He's spent more hours training boxing than Francis so a camp can't make the difference

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                  • #19
                    For me Ngannou needs a clumsy heavyweight in-front of him 'To assert his best weapons, which are his power'.

                    If Ngannou does not have that type of fighter in front of him 'I think he will drop rounds, especially to a experienced World to Elite level Heavyweight'.

                    Ngannou fought well vs Fury 'But when you analyse the fight? The action was not really of the highest level from both fighters. Ngannou really was just keeping his composure, fundamentals and then reacting to whatever Tyson Fury was doing. Those were Ngannou tactics in the fight'.

                    Ngannou's work was not really creative, his ability to pressure Fury 'Which he should of done more, was also very concerning. Ngannou for me displayed, a inability to pressure a Tyson Fury, who clearly did not want to fight at a pace'.

                    But that was the narrative of the fight which Tyson Fury created 'After Fury was decked. Fury still had the ability to alter the narrative of the fight, it became a boxing match'.

                    Of course Ngannou still fought well in that type of fight, but? He would of fought better, making the fight into his type of fight 'But Ngannou did not show the ability to alter the narrative of the action to better suit his abilities'.

                    Francis Ngnanou for me still won the fight, but he did allow Tyson Fury back into the fight 'And Fury was only able to achieve this, because he can react, anticipate and dictate the action of a boxing match'.

                    Fighters who are not proven high skill level boxers 'They just react to the action inside the ring'. Where as proven high level boxers, 'React to the action, Anticipation, and they have the ability to dictate and alter the action'.

                    Francis Ngannou so far in his Heavyweight boxing career, has shown that he is good at reacting to the action in a fight 'And keeping his fundamental composure'. But beyond this, I have not witnessed enough abilities for him to take rounds of Anthony Joshua'.

                    Anthony Joshua is the most experienced, proven and tested Heavyweight in the Heavyweight Division 'Joshua is the most proven pure boxer, in the Heavyweight Division outside of Fury and Uysk. Joshua has the ability to React, Anticipate and to Dictate the action in a fight'.

                    Primarily that is what all great boxers, want to achieve in a fight 'They want to fight, in the environment where they can impose their skills most effectively. That is essentially what high level boxing is about. Whoever wins that battle? Is winning the boxing match'.

                    Ngannou is not the best boxer skill for skill in this match up, and statistically as I have proven with my recent posts 'It is looking like Ngannou's endurance, it not on the level of Joshua's'.

                    If Tyson Fury would of made his fight vs Francis Ngannou a 12 round fight 'I believe potentially Fury, would of been the fighter who fought the best in those remaining rounds'.

                    Note: Ngannou vs Joshua is a serious fight. But I just believe if Joshua does not get decked, hurt or pressured enough in this fight 'Then Joshua will most likely just do what he does in most of his fights. Joshua will out box Ngannou, and beat him up 'Ngannou's corner may have to pull him out of the fight, or? If the fight goes the full 12 rounds. It will potentially be the worst beat down, Ngannou has ever sustained in his combat career' etc.









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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by BustedKnuckles View Post

                      If Francis is the third best, and you think AJ would be ahead pf him for neating him, then what about Usyk, who would've beat the man who beat the man?

                      A little silly here I think. And really Id like to see Francis against some other top 10 hws too. Ultimately, I dont see how losing gives you a place at the top.

                      Right now he's 0-1. Not exactly an admirable record.
                      I'm not going to lie: I forgot about Usyk. I don't know how. I was so focused on those three, maybe.

                      I do agree with the record. Ngaggou being 0-2 isn't impressive, ok the surface. But boxing is so surface level, no one wants to give someone credit for who they lost to. They see the record and assume someone's a tomato can or a g.o.a.t.

                      Numbers lie. 0-2 by losing to Fury and Joshua is far more.impressive than being 2-0 against guys with a combined 1-29 record.
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