3 Reasons Francis should actually be favored over AJ

[hhh1200]

then Ruiz knocked him out. meaning Ruiz took his punch and he couldn't take a 5'10 fat toad's punches lmfao


Ngannou punches way harder.

Ruiz would smash Ngannou. This joke is going to far now. AJ won't be doing 4 rounds of sparring and BSing around in camp. Out of shape, Fury was hitting this guy with rights for days and somehow people think he is going to stand up to rights from AJ round after around.

[Toffee]

Lets just simplify this, you tried to argue that the impacts in MMA were "pointier" rather than harder. Do you or do you not agree that ON AVERAGE eating a kick or flying knee in the head is a harder impact than being punched?

How many punches in boxing do you think are generating more force than this for example?

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or this?

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Or this?

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Honestly. Plenty. Guys get knocked spark out in boxing all the time. Every weekend.

That Masvidal kick is surely a bit of an exception? Even I've seen that one.

As for the last one, absolutely boxers are delivering more force. They're throwing at far greater speeds than that leg could deliver to head height.

[Toffee]

Its not speculation its common sense and accepted fact in any sport that features both punches and kicks. Imagine for punts in American football or shots in soccer they punched the ball instead, how do you think that would go? its like arguing that a baseball bat doesnt have more potential to do damage than a punch.

American footballers don't punt the ball from head height. They do it on the ground where their levers matter.

[TMLT87]

Honestly. Plenty. Guys get knocked spark out in boxing all the time. Every weekend.

That Masvidal kick is surely a bit of an exception? Even I've seen that one.

As for the last one, absolutely boxers are delivering more force. They're throwing at far greater speeds than that leg could deliver to head height.

Its not just about speed, its the weapon itself. A heavy leg being whipped around from the hip like a baseball bat and then the unpadded shin bone hitting someone in the face. Its a much more powerful weighty weapon than your fist.

Flying knees are not common but they're not rare either. They mostly happen when someone times their opponents takedown. Another famous example being the MVP/Cyborg one which did this...

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What kind of punch would it take to do that?

American footballers don't punt the ball from head height. They do it on the ground where their levers matter.

Levers matter when you throw a kick in a combat sport as well. You're driving up from the ground, through the hip and following through with the leg. If you hit a ball at head height like that youre again gonna hit it harder than if you punched it.

[Roadblock]

Its not just about speed, its the weapon itself. A heavy leg being whipped around from the hip like a baseball bat and then the unpadded shin bone hitting someone in the face. Its a much more powerful weighty weapon than your fist.

Flying knees are not common but they're not rare either. They mostly happen when someone times their opponents takedown. Another famous example being the MVP/Cyborg one which did this...

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What kind of punch would it take to do that?




Levers matter when you throw a kick in a combat sport as well. You're driving up from the ground, through the hip and following through with the leg. If you hit a ball at head height like that youre again gonna hit it harder than if you punched it.

Where does velocity come into it?

They touch on it here.
https://boxingscience.co.uk/science-behind-punch/

[TMLT87]

Where does velocity come into it?

They touch on it here.
https://boxingscience.co.uk/science-behind-punch/

Why are we acting like a good kicker cant accelerate their leg to head height extremely quickly?

What is heavier and stronger? your arm or your leg? why dont the police punch peoples doors down?

[TMLT87]

What we have here, is boxing fans pretending that if they were put in the ****ty position of having to make the choice between being punched by a boxer with boxing gloves on, or kicked in the ****ing head by a MMA/kickboxing/muay Thai fighter, they'd pick being kicked in the head....

[Roadblock]

Why are we acting like a good kicker cant accelerate their leg to head height extremely quickly?

What is heavier and stronger? your arm or your leg? why dont the police punch peoples doors down?

They can but nowhere near fast as a punch can if you measure it in milliseconds, it has 1/2 the distance to travel for one, point is at some point the velocity will overcome the mass and we don't know where that is, some guys will punch harder than some will kick and visa versa, its not an all one way or the other.

[TMLT87]

some guys will punch harder than some will kick and visa versa, its not an all one way or the other.

If they're anywhere near the same weight the guy thats kicking would have to be very poor mechanically to not be able to generate more power than the puncher.

I do agree with the bolded to some degree, some kicks get a lot more leverage than others. A push kick or front kick for example doesnt have the same amount of hip drive in it as a punch so I wouldnt be surprised if a good puncher is hitting harder than those. I'm mostly talking roundhouse kicks which are the most common and can hit very hard, then the most powerful would be some spinning **** like that Buckley KO I put the gif of.

[HeadShots]

Honestly. Plenty. Guys get knocked spark out in boxing all the time. Every weekend.

That Masvidal kick is surely a bit of an exception? Even I've seen that one.

As for the last one, absolutely boxers are delivering more force. They're throwing at far greater speeds than that leg could deliver to head height.

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