Why do alot of people like to say all Black boxers like run too much ?

[GrandpaBernard]

I think it's just a numbers game. Black fighters are still probably the majority of fighters in America and since we seen them more often, we see more styles than let's say a Mexican who wants to just get in there, put a lot of pressure and take your head off. That's not to say that they don't have their own aggressive fighters when I think of Crawford or Spence Jr. who come to mind. Though yes, a lot go the technical route and since there are a lot of black boxers in boxing, I think we just see it more often from them than when you think of another ethnicity.

Lately however, I'm seeing more technical Mexican boxers, so the styles are becoming more varied between the different cultures and although when you think of Mexican style, you think take 2 to land 3 with a lack of defense, there is more and more lately who are adding technical skills to their game. Heck, Canelo is probably the least Mexican style boxer these days and the most popular. I know he can **** when another fighter decides to engage him, but him just going through the motions of the fight, he's more on hit and showing off defense.

I'd go with Mexicans

Mexicans are focused on boxing and have buncha gyms

Black-Americans are good at too many different sports that are nowhere near as difficult as boxing

white guy sport golf best player ever is a black guy ffs

[crimsonfalcon07]

People like to be racist. Anyone who really cares will be looking way more in depth into a particular fighter's style. I don't think I'd care at all about the opinion of someone who said something like that.

[K--]

I don't know of a single book that covers training through all of boxing history but most books that cover a period will at least touch on the training in that period.

How and when ***ish boxing diverged from Christian boxing in the late 1780s can be found in Bareknuckle 1722-1888 by Chris Shelton, likewise that book will reference the connection between black american and ***ish english boxers.

When and how training came to America and how white training differed from black training in America can be found in Kevin Smith's Black Genesis: The History of the Black Prizefighter 1760-1870

But to be clear if you're interested in learning the history of training that's going to require a bunch of different books that are really about different subjects. As you get more modern in time it's easy and you can get a single book for say the 70s-now, but for older generations it's really a challenge

I've books ranging from ancient sources originally written on papyrus and etched in stone to modern books from modern trainers and writers and I've written a few let me explain the full history of this or that threads but not yet done training because it's a seriously under focused subject in boxing history. I'm getting pretty close and can answer the origins for a few things we just take for granted, like when sparring came to be, but still can't do the full history of training any justice.

I can recommend Matt Dunnellon's Peter Maher The Irish Champion. Despite being a bio book it's also a very good era book.

Boxing in the time of Christ is a solid introduction to ancient boxing, it's a good overview book that's not too terribly weighty.

Colorline era ethics are probably best handled by Kevin's sequel to Genesis; Sundowners.

I'm sorry bud, off the cuff that's all I can remember having decent training sections. Those will cover bare knuckle for you pretty good and the very early days of Queensbury before the bodies.

Cheers, happy researching bud.

No, no this is perfect. Much appreciated.

[K--]

I think it's just a numbers game. Black fighters are still probably the majority of fighters in America and since we seen them more often, we see more styles than let's say a Mexican who wants to just get in there, put a lot of pressure and take your head off. That's not to say that they don't have their own aggressive fighters when I think of Crawford or Spence Jr. who come to mind. Though yes, a lot go the technical route and since there are a lot of black boxers in boxing, I think we just see it more often from them than when you think of another ethnicity.

Lately however, I'm seeing more technical Mexican boxers, so the styles are becoming more varied between the different cultures and although when you think of Mexican style, you think take 2 to land 3 with a lack of defense, there is more and more lately who are adding technical skills to their game. Heck, Canelo is probably the least Mexican style boxer these days and the most popular. I know he can **** when another fighter decides to engage him, but him just going through the motions of the fight, he's more on hit and showing off defense.

I think the internet will h-omogenize boxing styles slowly over time. All the information is out there for the taking.

[WillieWild114]

To be fair, black Americans used to be far more action-oriented fighters than they are today, generally speaking. It's only recently they've become known for having such a safety-first 'tag, you're it' style of fighting.

I'm not a Mayweather hater, he's been one of my favourite boxers to watch, but it has to be said that he left some terrible long-term impacts on the sport and this is one of them IMO. Young boxers today see the overwhelming success he had with this particular style and so that's what they copy, naturally. The problem is that along with this, there's been an overall shift in the scoring meta whereby defensive boxing is now given too much credit.

It used to be "make them miss and make them pay," now it's just "make them miss." It used to be the guy coming forward who was typically favoured by judges in close rounds, now it's the opposite. Add in the much increased leniency towards clinching (it's barely even enforced as a foul anymore) and you have the perfect recipe for this kind of uber defensive, negative, spoiling style which is quite prevalent today.

There’s still alot of aggressive Black Boxers only 2 are known for hit and run today that are popular ! Haney & Shakur.

Wilder,Davis,Regis,Spence,Crawford,AJaint no runners and are some of the most popular boxers right now

[Don_Jah]

I'd go with Mexicans

Mexicans are focused on boxing and have buncha gyms

Black-Americans are good at too many different sports that are nowhere near as difficult as boxing

white guy sport golf best player ever is a black guy ffs

Every INDIVIDUAL is focused on boxing you fool! It's an individual sport, and a fighter is a fighter they either aint gonna do, or be as good at other sports

Black Americans are poor at most sports, especially football(soccer) - you know that sport that is the most popular and the most well paid in the world!! It's just you black supremacist types like to lie and exaggerate and claim you 'dominate any sport where you have like 10% or 20% of the best athletes in lol.

If you wanna talk that racial trolling nonsense then Ok I'll do it..

Black guy sport =Basketball - Last two winners of the basketball world cup Germany and Spain! Best two players in the NBA right now Nikola Jocic and Luka Doncic!

South Africa = black country, all of South Africas heavyweight world champions ever in boxing were white, their greatest ever boxer is Brian Mitchell.

And the tiny minority of whites in South Africa produced the best Rugby players so much in comparison to the overwhelming Black majority, that they had to come up with a rule/quota where they had to include 3 black players in the squad haha

And by the way Tiger Woods isn't even black!

[hugh grant]

Some black boxers try so desperately not to be hit even once like they have glass chins. But then you get your mercers, Oliver mcalls with chins of granite. Can't generalise

[FinitoxDinamita]

Hit without getting hit is what it’s about and only the slow, flat footed bums like to call black fighters runners.

[GrandpaBernard]

Every INDIVIDUAL is focused on boxing you fool! It's an individual sport, and a fighter is a fighter they either aint gonna do, or be as good at other sports

Black Americans are poor at most sports, especially football(soccer) - you know that sport that is the most popular and the most well paid in the world!! It's just you black supremacist types like to lie and exaggerate and claim you 'dominate any sport where you have like 10% or 20% of the best athletes in lol.

If you wanna talk that racial trolling nonsense then Ok I'll do it..

Black guy sport =Basketball - Last two winners of the basketball world cup Germany and Spain! Best two players in the NBA right now Nikola Jocic and Luka Doncic!

South Africa = black country, all of South Africas heavyweight world champions ever in boxing were white, their greatest ever boxer is Brian Mitchell.

And the tiny minority of whites in South Africa produced the best Rugby players so much in comparison to the overwhelming Black majority, that they had to come up with a rule/quota where they had to include 3 black players in the squad haha

And by the way Tiger Woods isn't even black!

[Teetotaler69]

turn the tv on and watch ortiz- lopez right now lmfao they run