Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Manager: Lopez and Haney Beat Champions at 140 But They Couldn't Do Anything with Loma at 135

[Lomadeaux]

So you believe Loma should have special privileges. They didn't owe him a rematch like he doesn't owe anyone a rematch. A rematch against Haney should have happened imo because the decision was controversial. But Loma had 12 rounds to beat the others and couldn't so I'm not sure what your point is.

I agree with your second paragraph, although Teofimo and Haney both have solid resumes. It's more the business and social media era that ruins everything.

This is the mentally of the modern-era athlete. Single parent, participation trophy households, scared of losing and challenging themselves. They RAN from rematches. Even Floyd, who helped ruin the minds of these young kids about 'losing their 0' would give immediate rematches and confirm that in the ring post fight.

Yes, the business side and social media era is what destroys everything.

[Gaydrien Boner]

This is the mentally of the modern-era athlete. Single parent, participation trophy households, scared of losing and challenging themselves. They RAN from rematches. Even Floyd, who helped ruin the minds of these young kids about 'losing their 0' would give immediate rematches and confirm that in the ring post fight.

Yes, the business side and social media era is what destroys everything.

We get clowns that bash on Canelo, Lomachenko, teofimo lopez, and other people that lost, hey casuals losses make you better not **** boxing fans are clowns especially canelo haters and tank fans

[GhostofDempsey]

The Lopez fight was Loma's to lose. He chose to only fight half the rounds. That's on him. He was definitely robbed in the Haney fight despite Haney's dirty tactics and likely coming into the ring 160+ pounds.

[BustedKnuckles]

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Loma is good enough to beat them all but for some reason he always allows the fight to be debatably close in his most significant fights and it bites him in the arse.

I think this is true, and I don't understand why. But ive given up trying to figure it out.

[Loque-san]

Since you apparently need a reminder, here's what you said to start out:


and yet Salido was the one to initiate the clinches that you said were illegal. Most of those clinches you claim Loma was responsible for, Loma is actually trying to disengage and Salido is holding on, such as Rd 2 0:02, Rd 3 2:30, etc.

The ref warned Loma for holding in Rd 3, after Loma had already disengaged, and Salido had tied Loma up 3 times to 1 just in that round without being warned even once. The commentators even assumed that Salido was the one being warned and had to correct themselves. By that point in the fight Salido had tied up 7 times to 3 from Loma, and held the arms on the tie up the only two times it happened. Are you really trying to use the one sided ref who ignored numerous fouls from Salido and called Loma on tying up for a brief second then immediately disengaging as evidence? Cole got called out by virtually every news outlet for his poor job, just the latest of many controversies for someone whose father was the boxing commissioner of the state. And here you are trying to use the corrupt actions of a notorious ref as evidence that Loma was fouling too?





You really don't understand why missing weight is considered a foul? Do you just not understand the concept of weight divisions? Imagine being such an ignorant fanboy of SALIDO of all people.

This was a featherweight bout for which Salido came in as a WELTERWEIGHT, fully 11 pounds over Loma for fight night. If you don't understand that's deliberate cheating, you really are just an ignorant fanboy. The cheating from Salido started at the weigh in and continued for the whole fight.

Controversial split decision result aside, Salido was as dirty as it comes for that fight, and it's disingenuous to pretend that it was anything but one sided. The press coverage for that ensures that the historical record will show that you're alone in that delusion.

So Loma received a stern warning in round 3. Unjustified obviously... But he kept on clinching like a greco-roman wrestler in the second half of the fight despite that warning. Cole never deducted a point from him of warned him again. HBO's commentary crew was very annoyed by Loma's holding at that point. The bulk of clinches and low blows came in the second half. That's when the fight really got dirty. Poor officiating by Cole.

We were talking about the action inside the ring and you moved the goalposts. Salido missed weight, unbelievable... like it never happened to any fighter before him. The fact he never made 126 again means he probably couldn't make this weight at that point.

This was a featherweight fight and Loma came in as a LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT. The fact Salido was heavier than Loma is irrelevant. He would have been heavier than him even if he had made weight. He was one of these fighters who rehydrates a lot, and even lost his ibf title on the scale before for rehydrating more than 10 pounds at the mandatory morning weigh-in.
You're just making up idiotic conspiracy theories because your mancrush lost and you can't take it.

We've seen fighters lose despite missing weight before. Lara missed weight and Wood still him comfortably. Salido was better than Loma that night, simple as that.

I see that you bring up articles excerpts to help your argument but refuse to adress HBO's criticism of Loma's non-stop clinching. You're a cheerleader sadly and that prevents you from being honest and discussing in good faith.

Besides, what a few writers, often in promoters' pockets, have to say about a fight isn't all that important when we have actual footage of said fight. Why would anyone want to be told a story when they can witness it? Most of them are mentionning the clinches by the way. Salido's win is set in the history books and the fight will expose Loma's fanboys like yourself as sore losers.

[Gaydrien Boner]

So Loma received a stern warning in round 3. Unjustified obviously... But he kept on clinching like a greco-roman wrestler in the second half of the fight despite that warning. Cole never deducted a point from him of warned him again. HBO's commentary crew was very annoyed by Loma's holding at that point. The bulk of clinches and low blows came in the second half. That's when the fight really got dirty. Poor officiating by Cole.

We were talking about the action inside the ring and you moved the goalposts. Salido missed weight, unbelievable... like it never happened to any fighter before him. The fact he never made 126 again means he probably couldn't make this weight at that point.

This was a featherweight fight and Loma came in as a LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT. The fact Salido was heavier than Loma is irrelevant. He would have been heavier than him even if he had made weight. He was one of these fighters who rehydrates a lot, and even lost his ibf title on the scale before for rehydrating more than 10 pounds at the mandatory morning weigh-in.
You're just making up idiotic conspiracy theories because your mancrush lost and you can't take it.

We've seen fighters lose despite missing weight before. Lara missed weight and Wood still him comfortably. Salido was better than Loma that night, simple as that.

I see that you bring up articles excerpts to help your argument but refuse to adress HBO's criticism of Loma's non-stop clinching. You're a cheerleader sadly and that prevents you from being honest and discussing in good faith.

Besides, what a few writers, often in promoters' pockets, have to say about a fight isn't all that important when we have actual footage of said fight. Why would anyone want to be told a story when they can witness it? Most of them are mentionning the clinches by the way. Salido's win is set in the history books and the fight will expose Loma's fanboys like yourself as sore losers.

Salido a tough MF, been in tons of wars