Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Tszyu-Thurman, Lopez-Ortiz, Tank-Haney, Jaron Ennis, More

[wrecksracer]

I give Jermall no shot at beating Canelo. It would be a travesty if that fight happens next.

[TheUptownKid]

I like this opinion on Crawford Canelo and Leonard hagler. I’ll start with srl v hagler, I think fans are victims to their experiences with a fighter. Srl dominated many fighters with overwhelming skill, but he didn’t beat hagler like that. The fight resembled Duran srl 1 in a way most of his fights did not. Hagler on the other hand fights going forward, he throws combos, he’s the bully of the event, to a layperson this fight was that. But you have to score the action in the ring and just bc this was a different game plan than what was expected shouldn’t change the results.

for Crawford Canelo, I think Crawford has a LEGIT shot in that one. If I were to wager I’d put money on him. Canelos closest decisions have come vs fighters with better footwork than him, which Crawford clearly does. One thing I’ve seen for most of a decade is Crawford is a thinking man’s fighter. He has game plans. He neutralizes tools. He adapts to fighters. I don’t think Canelo has shown the fluidity to adapt to much faster/ quicker opponent besides to add more pressure. I think he may win some rounds but it would not be a good match up skill wise for canelo

[BillyBoxing]

Canelo should be favored, but only because of his size. There is nothing else in a boxing ring he does better than Crawford. The fight that should be happening is canelo vs Benavidez but if canelo chooses to cower from the fight as it seems he’s doing, and fights a welterweight Crawford instead, I hope Crawford pulls it off. It would be perfect karma for canelo and would significantly damage his legacy for good.

Canelo does a lot of things better than Bud. He's more of a master boxer than Bud IMO. You guys getting fooled because Canelo lost let's say 3 times, but Bud at 23 years old would get stopped by Floyd, dude was getting rocked by Gamboa in his 20s.I dont think he would beat either a 35 years old GGG or Bivol either. And Nelo has gotten better, fixed holes since the Floyd and even the GGG "loss".

Bud best win is an injured Spence, think about it, Nelo would have trashed the Spence that Bud fought in 2 rounds.

[Jab jab boom]

Canelo does a lot of things better than Bud. He's more of a master boxer than Bud IMO. You guys getting fooled because Canelo lost let's say 3 times, but Bud at 23 years old would get stopped by Floyd, dude was getting rocked by Gamboa in his 20s.I dont think he would beat either a 35 years old GGG or Bivol either. And Nelo has gotten better, fixed holes since the Floyd and even the GGG "loss".

Bud best win is an injured Spence, think about it, Nelo would have trashed the Spence that Bud fought in 2 rounds.

I repeat, there is nothing Canelo does better than Crawford in the ring. Crawford has superior technique, accuracy, combination punching, can box from both sides, foot movement, stamina, punch output, intelligence.
you saying that Floyd would’ve stopped 23 yr old Crawford is laughable. Who was Floyd stopping 13 yrs ago?? Ortiz with a sucker punch? The Gamboa reference is also a joke. I might as well just bring up canelo getting rocked by jose Cotto. The athleticism and speed that Gamboa had combined with Crawford draining down to 135 is not a good measuring stick. We’ve all seen multiple guys get hurt in smaller weight classes and move up to fight elite punchers in bigger weight classes and not even get hurt.
Lastly, the fact that this fight is on Canelo’s radar and he refuses to even entertain Benavidez leads me to the other advantage Crawford has over canelo which is the passion to truly chase greatness. Canelo likes to say that’s his mantra but his actions often contradict that. Crawford is motivated to risk it all while canelo is trying to minimize risk as much as possible.

[Poopdick]

Why do people ask how Tank would do against a tough opponent, when they know it's not going to happen? There's a difference between saying you're the best vs actually proving it.

its crazy ppl still HAVE to ASK how tank would do against top opponent. mother footer is 30 years old lol. when a guy is around that long and his management don't put him against top guys, there is good reason. ie. Wilder, Fulton lately. basically any pbc guys once they must fight outside of pbc and face true competition and not the pbc hype jobs, that they fool ppl into believing are top guys

[daggum]

Can't believe that person wasted so much time breaking down tank vs Haney, then the respondent wasted his time responding, now I'm wasting mine because we know tank is a hype job fraud who won't fight real opponents.

[Poopdick]

thanks to Jason who wrote about the podcast and new book Mike silver wrote. blows my mind and is cringe worthy to hear ppl say modern boxers are better than ones of the old. there is no comparison, the skill is lost. just ordered the book as well, The Arc Of Boxing. anyway hadn't heard of it. GREAT podcast and will be badass book.

[joseph5620]

Canelo does a lot of things better than Bud. He's more of a master boxer than Bud IMO. You guys getting fooled because Canelo lost let's say 3 times, but Bud at 23 years old would get stopped by Floyd, dude was getting rocked by Gamboa in his 20s.I dont think he would beat either a 35 years old GGG or Bivol either. And Nelo has gotten better, fixed holes since the Floyd and even the GGG "loss".

Bud best win is an injured Spence, think about it, Nelo would have trashed the Spence that Bud fought in 2 rounds.

That's a straight up lie. Canelo has no footwork. That in itself shows how ridiculous your statement is. The same thing for "Canelo got better after Floyd." No he didn't. He's the same fighter with the same flaws.

[BillyBoxing]

I repeat, there is nothing Canelo does better than Crawford in the ring. Crawford has superior technique, accuracy, combination punching, can box from both sides, foot movement, stamina, punch output, intelligence.
you saying that Floyd would’ve stopped 23 yr old Crawford is laughable. Who was Floyd stopping 13 yrs ago?? Ortiz with a sucker punch? The Gamboa reference is also a joke. I might as well just bring up canelo getting rocked by jose Cotto. The athleticism and speed that Gamboa had combined with Crawford draining down to 135 is not a good measuring stick. We’ve all seen multiple guys get hurt in smaller weight classes and move up to fight elite punchers in bigger weight classes and not even get hurt.
Lastly, the fact that this fight is on Canelo’s radar and he refuses to even entertain Benavidez leads me to the other advantage Crawford has over canelo which is the passion to truly chase greatness. Canelo likes to say that’s his mantra but his actions often contradict that. Crawford is motivated to risk it all while canelo is trying to minimize risk as much as possible.

Floyd stopping a 23 years Bud is laughable?
Bud by the age of 23 was fighting club fighters with double digit losses but you think he could go 12 rounds with Floyd in 2010?

I'mma telling you what is laughable, what is laughable is thinking Bud is going to move up 21 pounds from 147 to 168 to beat the lineal champ who happens to be way more experienced, better défense, stronger, quicker and 3 years younger.

I won't add anything else.

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Floyd stopping a 23 years Bud is laughable?
Bud by the age of 23 was fighting club fighters with double digit losses but you think he could go 12 rounds with Floyd in 2010?

I'mma telling you what is laughable, what is laughable is thinking Bud is going to move up 21 pounds from 147 to 168 to beat the lineal champ who happens to be way more experienced, better défense, stronger, quicker and 3 years younger.

I won't add anything else.

What’s laughable is your reading comprehension. I clearly stated in my first comment that Canelo is the favorite and shouldn’t even be entertaining this match. But those of you who believe that he’s good enough to the point that there isn’t any risk of him losing might be in for a rude awakening. Separately, picking Floyd by Ko really exposes a lack of knowledge.
I won’t add anything else.