Comments Thread For: Tim Tszyu Accepting That He May Never Fight Jermell Charlo: "He's A Bit Of A Coward"

[MONGOOSE66]

GGG turned down a fight with Jermall Charlo and a deal

Yea, cause you read it in the internet. Charlos AVOIDED all the top talent. Like i said, look at canelos resume side by side woth either Charla. Their the SAME ages. Also notice that canelo fought tuff as a YOUNG fighter. Mayweather being one of them. Charlas avoiding big names from the beginning. They did what maybe ONE OLD big name.

[Bullrider]

Jermell took a page out of Mikey Garcia's playbook. Move up two weight classes to challenge a dangerous champion. If you lose there is no shame in it because you took on that division's boogeyman the way Mikey did with Spence. That way Mikey could avoid a humiliating defeat from Lomachenko at 135, and Jermell can avoid a humiliating defeat by Tszyu at 154.

No real similarity. Mikey went after Spence. It wasn't offered unlike in Charlo's case. And the Loma fight was far from happening since Mikey was no longer with TR at that time. Not to mention his parting with Arum wasn't exactly amicable. Besides, Loma was still fighting at 130 and Mikey was already gravitating around 140 and 147. Charlo was set to fight Tzsyu, while Mikey was not obligated to fight anyone.

In other words, there was no one waiting for Mikey to escape from, and was not exactly the money he went after as Spence was not some Mexican superstar who everyone wants a piece of. He really believed he could beat Spence.

[JLC]

Come on, big names big fights. Going up five pounds for those guys is NOTHING. Their fkn HUGE fir their weight classes. Canelo fought 154 to 175. Thats what great fighters do. Their NOT great fighters. I believe they could of been but now its too fckn late.

Big gap between great fighter and coward. That’s all I’m saying.

Canelo has made some questionable / business moves. Khan at 160 instead of Ggg ? He made the move when it was right for him. As she should. Doesn’t make him a coward.

Kovalev instead of Bieterbiev ? Bivol instead of Bieterbiev ? Doesn’t make him a coward.

[GhostofDempsey]

No real similarity. Mikey went after Spence. It wasn't offered unlike in Charlo's case. And the Loma fight was far from happening since Mikey was no longer with TR at that time. Not to mention his parting with Arum wasn't exactly amicable. Besides, Loma was still fighting at 130 and Mikey was already gravitating around 140 and 147. Charlo was set to fight Tzsyu, while Mikey was not obligated to fight anyone.

In other words, there was no one waiting for Mikey to escape from, and was not exactly the money he went after as Spence was not some Mexican superstar who everyone wants a piece of. He really believed he could beat Spence.

No, Loma and Mikey were both at 135 when Mikey ducked him and chose Spence. By choosing Spence he doesn’t lose any stock by losing to a guy who is heavily favored to win.

[Roadblock]

No, Loma and Mikey were both at 135 when Mikey ducked him and chose Spence. By choosing Spence he doesn’t lose any stock by losing to a guy who is heavily favored to win.

But his stocks did go down he went downhill after that and retired, even though he got a win he seemed to just fade away.

[MONGOOSE66]

Big gap between great fighter and coward. That’s all I’m saying.

Canelo has made some questionable / business moves. Khan at 160 instead of Ggg ? He made the move when it was right for him. As she should. Doesn’t make him a coward.

Kovalev instead of Bieterbiev ? Bivol instead of Bieterbiev ? Doesn’t make him a coward.

No, those moves are EASY to understand from a business point of view. Coward is the wrong word though. Their not great boxers just business men.

[Bullrider]

No, Loma and Mikey were both at 135 when Mikey ducked him and chose Spence. By choosing Spence he doesn’t lose any stock by losing to a guy who is heavily favored to win.

We can agree to disagree. No issues from me. Like I mentioned, Mikey was no longer with TR and started his run on the PBC platform starting from Rojas, Zlaticanin, Broner, Lipinets, Easter. As you see at such point he already established himself as a PBC fighter. So dealing with Arum for the Loma fight was faaar from happening. If you think that fight could have been made easily, I can't argue with that. That's your belief. Simply put, there's no Loma that is already set up for him when he went after Spence. On the other hand, Tzsyu was only waiting for Jermell's injury getting healed.

[GhostofDempsey]

We can agree to disagree. No issues from me. Like I mentioned, Mikey was no longer with TR and started his run on the PBC platform starting from Rojas, Zlaticanin, Broner, Lipinets, Easter. As you see at such point he already established himself as a PBC fighter. So dealing with Arum for the Loma fight was faaar from happening. If you think that fight could have been made easily, I can't argue with that. That's your belief. Simply put, there's no Loma that is already set up for him when he went after Spence. On the other hand, Tzsyu was only waiting for Jermell's injury getting healed.

Not at all far from happening when Loma is the one who wanted the fight. Loma was the unified LW champion, Mikey was the IBF champ. Mikey knew moving up two classes to fight the most dangerous opponent at 147 was a win-win for him. If he wins he defeats the odds, if he loses he was a huge underdog who stepped up and lost zero stock as a fighter. Jermell did the same thing. Go up two weight classes knowing he is the big underdog. If he wins he looks like a hero, if he loses he was the underdog anyway and expected to lose, no shame in losing and he still has his titles at 154.

[JLC]

We can agree to disagree. No issues from me. Like I mentioned, Mikey was no longer with TR and started his run on the PBC platform starting from Rojas, Zlaticanin, Broner, Lipinets, Easter. As you see at such point he already established himself as a PBC fighter. So dealing with Arum for the Loma fight was faaar from happening. If you think that fight could have been made easily, I can't argue with that. That's your belief. Simply put, there's no Loma that is already set up for him when he went after Spence. On the other hand, Tzsyu was only waiting for Jermell's injury getting healed.

Yes sir. Finally somebody talking about how boxing actually operates and situations unfold.

[messi807]

Yea, cause you read it in the internet. Charlos AVOIDED all the top talent. Like i said, look at canelos resume side by side woth either Charla. They’re the SAME ages. Also notice that canelo fought tuff as a YOUNG fighter. Mayweather being one of them. Charlas avoiding big names from the beginning. They did what maybe ONE OLD big name.

Not a Charlo fan. Jermell avoided nobody though, not a single name you could think of. He should be fighting Tzyu maybe but I think Bud will take that fight off him.