Comments Thread For: Jaime Munguia Drops John Ryder Four Times, Stops Him in Ninth

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  • Southpawology
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    #211
    Originally posted by messi807

    For sure. Should’ve had a W over Callum Smith, but should’ve lost to an old Daniel Jacobs. Decent name for Munguia. Munguia struggled with a past prime Derevychenko & the likes of Dennis Hogan.. he’s for majority of guys at 168. Would like to see him against Mbilli maybe
    the thing with derevychenko though is even though he is older and past prime is that he is severelyyyy underrated and skillful he has like 15 pro fights and his resume is loaded.

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    • ReggieKray
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      #212
      Originally posted by messi807

      Thing is.. he’s had nearly 50 fights of tune-ups lol. Surely a credible opponent or a major step up has to be next, this can’t continue for much longer. His resumè might be worse than Zurdo’s
      Can't argue that haha, but he at least looked the part today. Also he is entering his prime. He is 27 right now. So I think he is only going to get better but of unfortunately never get credit unless he can beat Canelo, Benevidez, or Morrell.

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      • messi807
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        #213
        Originally posted by Southpawology

        the thing with derevychenko though is even though he is older and past prime is that he is severelyyyy underrated and skillful he has like 15 pro fights and his resume is loaded.
        Derevy is my dude.. all his losses have been CLOSE fights, maybe bar the Jermall fight. Wish he turned pro earlier. But I thought he beat Munguia for sure

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        • JakeTheBoxer
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          #214
          Ok, Munguia is another fighter Canelo won`t fight.

          Canelo won`t fight Morrell, Benavidez, Munguia, Bivol rematch, Beterbiev.

          We are closer and closer. Canelo fights Crawford or bigger Charlo.

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          • A.B Counterhooks
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            #215
            Its not that Canelo v Mungia clash is meaningless, its actually a good fight but its clear folks want too ser him against Benavidez next.

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              #216
              Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks
              Its not that Canelo v Mungia clash is meaningless, its actually a good fight but its clear folks want too ser him against Benavidez next.
              It won`t happen. Benny can move to 175 for fighting undisputed winner. His team is running his mouth big time.

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              • messi807
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                #217
                Originally posted by garfios
                He's a resilient journeyman, you have yo put him down, he won't lay down for you, that is his credit, still a journeyman. And for guy with over 42 fights to think because he won against ryder that he should fight for the belts, is a little bit delusional when they're some guys like benavidez and Morrell jr that have been waiting for over two years. Then again we know ginger will choose the least dangerous.
                Exactly. We know Canelo is going to choose the weak-east link.

                Serious question - out of 40 year Golovkin, Ryder, Plant, Saunders, Smith, Yildirim etc

                Everyone he’s beaten at 168, who’s actually an elite 168?

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                • El_Maldito_Rey
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by garfios
                  He's a resilient journeyman, you have yo put him down, he won't lay down for you, that is his credit, still a journeyman. And for guy with over 42 fights to think because he won against ryder that he should fight for the belts, is a little bit delusional when they're some guys like benavidez and Morrell jr that have been waiting for over two years. Then again we know ginger will choose the least dangerous.
                  You keep harping on the 40+ fights as if he started boxing 4-5 years ago. He's Mexican, started boxing at 15-16 with no amateur experience, he's not a commie Cuban or some commie Slavic that had 300 amateur bouts and turned pro at 25. The first 5 years\25 fights were his amateur experience.

                  But he's done more than Morrell that's for sure. Benavidez and Munguia should be next in line for Canelo. Morrell hasn't earned squat.

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                  • Theshotyoudontsee
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                    #219
                    Canelo just put another name on the "things not to do" list.

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                    • Southpawology
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by messi807

                      Derevy is my dude.. all his losses have been CLOSE fights, maybe bar the Jermall fight. Wish he turned pro earlier. But I thought he beat Munguia for sure

                      truthhh, derevy never been outclassed or dominated

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