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  • #21
    it's kind of a trainer's job to correct your flaws. Does Joshua believe he doesn't have any flaws that need correcting? If anyone needs the dreadful Emanuel Steward "punch and clinch" heavyweight style, it's Joshua. He rarely uses his size as an advantage.
    Last edited by wrecksracer; 01-26-2024, 07:15 PM.
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    • #22
      Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post
      it's kind of a trainer's job to correct your flaws. Does Joshua believe he doesn't have any flaws that need correcting? If anyone needs the dreadful Emanuel Stewart "punch and clinch" heavyweight style, it's Joshua. He rarely uses his size as an advantage.
      Like a little boy in a big mans body.
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      • #23
        AJ doesn't have the potential to learn from Ben and probably Ben knows it, that is why he doesn't try to change him but works on whatever AJ is capable of.

        Following his loss to Ruiz and Usyk, AJ thinks there is nothing he must change, even a bit.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by fifth_root View Post
          AJ doesn't have the potential to learn from Ben and probably Ben knows it, that is why he doesn't try to change him but works on whatever AJ is capable of.

          Following his loss to Ruiz and Usyk, AJ thinks there is nothing he must change, even a bit.
          I wish I had your insight. In fact, reflecting on it, it is remarkable just how similar AJ fought in the second Ruiz fight to the first, leaving no doubt that you are correct in your conlclusion that he thought there was nothing to change after losing to Ruiz.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

            I wish I had your insight. In fact, reflecting on it, it is remarkable just how similar AJ fought in the second Ruiz fight to the first, leaving no doubt that you are correct in your conlclusion that he thought there was nothing to change after losing to Ruiz.
            If you mean he changed to a scared-to-engage - I admit you are right. But unlike my insight, yours makes you believe this is a change, not a degradation.

            By the way, he changed a lot for the second Usyk fight, didn't he?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by fifth_root View Post

              If you mean he changed to a scared-to-engage - I admit you are right. But unlike my insight, yours makes you believe this is a change, not a degradation.

              By the way, he changed a lot for the second Usyk fight, didn't he?
              Glad you admit I am right.

              As for the second Usyk fight, he definitely fought a better fight. The result was correct, but the difference between the two was narrower. I saw differences, even if you didn't.

              Regardless, the crux of what you have been saying is evidently false. Switching McCracken for Garcia, then Derrick James, then Davison is hardly the actions of someone who does not believe there is a need for change.

              Anyone with eyes can see Joshua does not fight the same now as he did a while back. And anything that is not the same is, by definition, change.
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              • #27
                “I went to a stage where I was trying to change my style. A bit of back-foot boxing, box behind the jab, stick and move, not be explosive, control the pace.​“

                I’ve been saying this for years. It was like an in-ring identity crisis. I compared AJ to post-Judah Cotto, where he would easily give ground to his opponents, letting them fight their fight with confidence and looking vulnerable in the process. Cotto regained his form with Rubio and Roach; not by changing the style, where he was at his best, but by refining his style.

                AJ went through a similar rough patch and it looks like he found himself again. Boxing and the Heavyweight division will be better for it.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Heru View Post
                  AJ went through a similar rough patch and it looks like he found himself again. Boxing and the Heavyweight division will be better for it.
                  So the old AJ is back and he's gonna try and bully Ngannou then.

                  Love to see it!

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                  • #29
                    Joshua started to fight on the back foot in the second Ruiz fight in order to avoid what happened in the first Ruiz fight.

                    The body work that Robert Garcia wanted more of was the most success he had against Usyk.

                    Since then he has managed to look good only against Otto Wallin. I don’t know if that was because Ben Davison is a good trainer for him, or just because the opponent was Wallin.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                      Joshua started to fight on the back foot in the second Ruiz fight in order to avoid what happened in the first Ruiz fight.

                      The body work that Robert Garcia wanted more of was the most success he had against Usyk.

                      Since then he has managed to look good only against Otto Wallin. I don’t know if that was because Ben Davison is a good trainer for him, or just because the opponent was Wallin.
                      Joshua started believing he could box going backwards when he beat Parker.

                      No one had gone the distance with him before that. He knew if he could go 12 with Parker the decision was always gonna favour him.

                      The ref just made sure of it.

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