Comments Thread For: Chris Algieri: "No One Beats A Prime Roy Jones Jr, Beterbiev Included"

[MulaKO]

Subject C) I met Jones when I didn't know who he was. I was visiting Sun Valley Mall in Concord during the Olympic Box-offs when I was knee high to a grasshopper and met a guy looking over the gloves and he has a shirt on with a picture of Leonard and I mentioned I was a fan and the guy next to him said as he pointed to Jones that he will be the next Leonard. I could have laughed but said something like "Cool". Then I go home to watch the box off's that were in my town and I saw Jones and was blown away when I realized how amazing he was and that I had just met him. Damn Korea for the greatest Olympic robbery of all time.

Cool story
Chit like that don’t happen every day
Very cool

[Zaroku]

Russian poon. Yeah he’s my idol

[Haka]

Subject A) Roy's chin. No one ever dropped him or stopped him in his prime. Only when he sped up his biological clock by dropping muscle weight fast did that take a toll and his punch resistance went down. Think about how many fighters took bigger punchers and bigger fighters shots and barely blinked but when they dropped weight, they were stopped. To name just one, Chris Byrd held up to some heavyweight punches and you would think that when he went down to 175 or so to fight Shaun George, George would not be able to dent him. You would almost bet your house that a fighter with a 50% KO record at 175 could not possibly stop Byrd. He did. So many examples of dropping weight going wrong and being susceptible to punches more than ever.

How did he drop his muscle weight ? By not eating ?

[Oldskoolg]

An interesting article that suggest RJJ was the best ever at 175. In truth, he deserves to be somewhere near the very top, but Ezzard Charles, Michael Spinks and Bob Foster aren't so easily pushed back in line

I can’t believe what I am seeing here, someone posting who actually knows boxing before 2010…well I’ll be. Well said by the way. I’d also throw in Billy Conn, light heavyweight Gene Tunney, Sam Langford, and Archie Moore as well. What I will say is jones to me was actually the best super middleweight in history. Middleweight and super middleweight he was a wrecking ball and absolitely flawless. Great light heavyweight but at that point he was beating on naturally bigger guys. Great light heavyweight ans yes he would have beaten any light heavyweight today but would have stopped all the middleweights and super middleweights around these days including Canelo

[Oldskoolg]

I’ve already said imo , he’s the only guy I see beating RJJ

Mate, RJJr in his prime losing to JoeC?

[GhostofDempsey]

Too many ATGs at that weight who would have given Roy all he could handle. Gibbons, Tunney, Conn, Charles, Foster, Spinks, just to name a few. Roy's best weight was 168, and 175 wasn't exactly ripe with top talent while he was champion. His failed drug test also hangs a cloud of doubt over his head.

[MulaKO]

Mate, RJJr in his prime losing to JoeC?

That’s the only guy I would give a chance , a very good chance , of beating him
Rjj always had problems with southpaws and plus Joe threw a bunch

[Oldskoolg]

That’s the only guy I would give a chance , a very good chance , of beating him
Rjj always had problems with southpaws and plus Joe threw a bunch

JoeC definitely one of the greatest super middleweights in history but i think he came along at a time where he missed the fights with the best. I am confident that jones would have overwhelmed him but I think Joe would have met a very violent end had he fight Benn, who would have given him a worse mauling than jones would have based on styles. Post Watson Eubank would probably have been a tossup, pre Watson style I’d take eubank. Now McClellan and Jackson, no way JoeC sees the final bell against either, too much power, Joe was the ultimate pressure dynamo fighter and not a defensive master

[juanpablo]

Prime RJJ was something else

[MulaKO]

JoeC definitely one of the greatest super middleweights in history but i think he came along at a time where he missed the fights with the best. I am confident that jones would have overwhelmed him but I think Joe would have met a very violent end had he fight Benn, who would have given him a worse mauling than jones would have based on styles. Post Watson Eubank would probably have been a tossup, pre Watson style I’d take eubank. Now McClellan and Jackson, no way JoeC sees the final bell against either, too much power, Joe was the ultimate pressure dynamo fighter and not a defensive master

I see your point
I still think he’d give Roy a good fight and can see him winning
Obviously this don’t mean chit cause unfortunately we’ll never see it