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  • #31
    Fück Anthony Joshua!

    Fury doesn't need him on his resumé and is under no pressure to do anything for the UK fans.

    Joshua needs Fury because he's lost 3 times and already blew the Wilder fight.

    Tyson needs to beat Usyk and should leave AJ hanging for eternity then troll him at every opportunity
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    • #32
      Everyone is suffering from Saudi money memory loss, Rhiyad is over in March.

      Furys Usyk have a rematch clause which may not happen until Rhiad next December. Welcome to the new world.

      Aj who himself took 11 month's for an immediate rematchroom clause is in no picture's, Hrgovic, Zhang & Bakolie are in the next rotation & from what I've read Fury will only keep the ring the wbc.

      Aj turned down Fury twice just a year ago because he's signed sponsorship deals where he has to be the A-side.

      Part of still wants Fury to win but I hope Usyk get's the job done & honour's his mandatories until father time catches up.


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      • #33
        Fury needs to amass a decent string of wins to cement himself as a decent top 10 heavyweight (all time), otherwise yeah he doesn't have to...

        AJ beating Ngannou proves nothing and certainly doesn't immediately put him over more deserving fighters.

        I'd imagine anyone in the top 50 would beat him with ease by sticking him on the end of a jab as long as they don't get caught.

        Fury not taking it seriously and Ngannou being an unknown quantity made it more competitive than it should've been but Fury won the fight.

        People seem to forget all the nothing rounds need to be scored and truthfully they went to Fury.

        And Ngannous only stand out rounds were 3 and 8 but buying into hype is common these days...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Boro View Post
          Fury needs to amass a decent string of wins to cement himself as a decent top 10 heavyweight (all time), otherwise yeah he doesn't have to...

          AJ beating Ngannou proves nothing and certainly doesn't immediately put him over more deserving fighters.

          I'd imagine anyone in the top 50 would beat him with ease by sticking him on the end of a jab as long as they don't get caught.

          Fury not taking it seriously and Ngannou being an unknown quantity made it more competitive than it should've been but Fury won the fight.

          People seem to forget all the nothing rounds need to be scored and truthfully they went to Fury.

          And Ngannous only stand out rounds were 3 and 8 but buying into hype is common these days...
          I will need to get round to watching it again but live I had Ngannou 1 up going into the final 2 rounds and I didn't think Fury won the final 2 rounds.

          Even the nothing rounds were close, and I say that as a fury fan.

          I do agree that Fury was not taking it seriously, it was a similar Fury to the Wallin or earlier in his career when he fought Neven Pajkic and Nikolai Firtha and he was awful.

          Still though I think Ngannou is a bit better than people think even now, I think he's just a freak of nature.

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          • #35
            Money is a great reason imo.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by pollywog View Post
              Fück Anthony Joshua!

              Fury doesn't need him on his resumé and is under no pressure to do anything for the UK fans.

              Joshua needs Fury because he's lost 3 times and already blew the Wilder fight.

              Tyson needs to beat Usyk and should leave AJ hanging for eternity then troll him at every opportunity
              There's a reasonable chance that in his haste to secure big money 'easier' fights his chin may not hold up anyway.

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              • #37
                Ali beat frasier, foreman, liston, Shavers, terrell, norton, cleveland
                Fury beat wlad, wilder
                Last edited by hugh grant; 01-25-2024, 07:09 AM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                  Ali beat frasier, foreman, liston, Shavers, terrell, norton, cleveland
                  Fury beat wlad, wilder
                  But Joshua beat Charles Martin!....

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                  • #39
                    Joshua should go an fight the little fatty which is only one one in a reasonable size ring with Ruiz in reasonable shape.

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                    as it's only one one and they pretend the first fight didn't happen after running away to Saudi Arabia rather than go to America and fight the champion who just slapped him up and down new York.

                    Also bloke acted like a **** multiple times which also doesn't seem to get mentioned.

                    Then can go and fight shot old wilder if gets through that Mexican.

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                    • #40
                      If Fury beats Uysk, he still has reasons to fight Joshua 'If Joshua for real wins vs Ngannou'.

                      But? Tyson Fury will also have reasons to not fight Anthony Joshua 'If he wins vs Oleksandr Usyk'.

                      Note: Historically Fury has only really taken on big fights and challenges if he really has to, so? A situation would be created where, he does not really have to fight Anthony Joshua 'Fury could rationalize his way out of that fight'.

                      Most people in the game, would hold this against him 'But Fury within himself, and his hardcore fans I believe? Would kind of convince themselves, that this type of behavior is acceptable.

                      Did Lennox Lewis really have to fight Mike Tyson 'Lewis won vs Holyfield'.

                      Still Lennox Lewis the Champion he was? Understood that he still needed to fight Mike Tyson.

                      Tyson Fury will be in this similar type of situation 'But will he act and behave like former past great World Heavyweight Champions?' etc.

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