Comments Thread For: Hearn on Ngannou's Boxing Debut: Maybe Fury is a Shot Fighter, We'll Find Out on February 17

[Boro]

I've been thinking this. Warren talks about it when asked but seems to avoid mentioning the date. He's certainly not shouting about it in the way you would expect him to.

Feels a bit weird, but we do know both men are in camp.

I'm expecting a delay or straight up cancelation tbh, it's not like Fury hasn't waited till 2 weeks before a fight date to pull out before for a twisted ankle or something...

[N/A]

An insane recovery is a part of is your chin good or not. Being knocked down doesn't necessarily mean your chin is weak - it could be due to multiple reasons.

Hearn talks a lot about other fighters, but not his. This man is exploding in his spite and becomes an even greater insect.

[Mr WorldWide]

I'm expecting a delay or straight up cancelation tbh, it's not like Fury hasn't waited till 2 weeks before a fight date to pull out before for a twisted ankle or something...

It has been quiet. The optimist in me thinks the promotional commitments Fury had with Nngannou got in his way and he is doesn't want to make the same mistake twice. Radio silence from Furys team could (hopefully) be a good thing.

[TMLT87]

Its not like Fury has ever been fighting a ton of great opponents and/or massive punchers. It was basically just an old Wlad in a staring contest and then Wilder who dropped him repeatedly. I dont think getting dropped by Ngannou signifies his chin is going, safe to say Ngannou hits harder than Steve Cunningham.

[thack]

Fury gets dropped and gets up to win .Joshua gets dropped and goes into a haze and falls to pieces.Hearn will find that this quality separates the good fighters from the champions.

[Boxviewer]

Greedy Belly is an overhyped boxer.

[Liondw]

The more one looks at this heavyweight superfight, the more you realise that Usyk is a really tough technical challenge for Fury.

One that a bigger size and punching power is not the end all and be all. Fury has to fight smart as well.

[thack]

In just three weeks time we will know for sure who the best boxer in the world is , we already know it’s not Anthony Joshua

[kev2k83]

Looks shot equals we fancy the fight now.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I've been thinking this. Warren talks about it when asked but seems to avoid mentioning the date. He's certainly not shouting about it in the way you would expect him to.

Feels a bit weird, but we do know both men are in camp.

It could be a promotional tactic. Once upon a time, Eddie Hearn stated that? He used to deliberately not promote or mention a fight much 'Until very close to the actual fight'.

Apparently because casual sports fans, don't really focus or pay attention to anything for long periods of time 'You have to apply intense promotional pressure in a reduced period of time'.

But Hearn may have only used those tactics for domestic level fights.

Note: One of the best promoted fights, I have witnessed these past few years was 'Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder II'. That was really some old school promoting, there was a real big effort to create a mega event.

I think promoters just leave things to alternative media these days.

David Haye was the last real Heavyweight in my opinion, who promoted himself greatly 'Off his own back, a maverick'.

I believe Fury vs Usyk will happen 'Tyson Fury 3 months ago, was already in fight condition'. This is something many people continually are passing over, Fury I would imagine for most of his recent fights? Has not entered into training camp, pretty much in fight condition.

Fury may not of been in his best ever condition, but he was for sure in fight night condition 'Fury weighed in at 277 pounds clothed, most likely Fury was closer to 274 pounds or lighter'.

The notion that Fury did not train for Ngannou, is also nonsense 'There is no way, Fury would of been able to get whacked to then get up. Then fight his way back into the fight to a certain extent, without being in fight condition.

The challenge for Fury in this fight is? The big jump in skill level, which he is now competing against 'Fury has not fought at elite level skill for skill, since the Wladimir Kiltschko fight'.

Wilder has elite level power, great determination, gameness and a solid enough jab at times. But if you was to take away his power, Wilder would of potentially struggled to progress beyond domestic level 'Maybe he would of been a domestic to Lower European level fighter'.

Oleksander Usyk skill for skill, has fought better boxers than Fury skill for skill for his entire career 'The majority of those cruiser weight fighters he has fought, and all of his experience in the amateur ranks. Skill for skill they have all been better fighters than Tyson Fury'.

I have been stating for a long time, that it is not the skill level of Fury 'Which will be the challenge for Usyk'. And I neither believe that it will be his punching power or brute strength 'Usyk has been fighting and beating more powerful punchers at Heavyweight than Fury'.

If both Usyk and Fury, where put through a rigorous strength and conditioning test i.e fitness tests, and gym base exercise tests 'I don't think Fury beats Uysk, at any discipline.

Reality is Tyson Fury is not the best athlete in this match up, Oleksandr Usyk is 'This fight is not, like when David Haye fought a absolute peak Wladimir Kiltschko'.

David Haye was a great athlete in terms of speed, co-ordination, agility, power and innate brute strength. Haye was also skill for skill, a great boxer.

When Haye moved up into the Heavyweight Division, he most likely believed 'That the only thing he had to overcome and negate, was the Heavyweights dimensions and their potential extra brute strength. That is it'.

For the most part Haye was right, he obliterated Monte Barrett, John Ruiz, and out boxed Valuev 'It was only when Haye come into contact with Kiltschko, did he face off with a Super Heavyweight. Who's Athletic ability was comparable to his own, and his boxing skills were also comparable if not greater in some area's'.

Oleksandr Uysk is not really in that same situation in 2024, up against this version of Tyson Fury 'Uysk is the by far better athlete pound for pound, and he is the more proven superior boxer skill for skill many times over' Usyk is a Olympic Champion, and has fought at a higher skill level than Fury for the majority of his career.

David Haye as a cruiser weight the night he fought Wladimir Kiltschko, was taking on a more difficult challenge skill for skill than Uysk is now 'And he was fighting a greater Heavyweight Fighter than Tyson Fury, in a peak Wladimir Kiltschko'.

This week is pretty much the conclusion of training 'After this week, we will be 2 weeks out from the fight. During this period of time, there will most likely be no big jumps in conditioning for ether fighter. Right now as we speak, the fighters are very close to fight condition'.

Things are very quiet, we have heard not much speculation regarding each fighters condition 'Only really one story, about a Fury sparring partner'.

It is still a close fight to call, because yes Fury is 270 + pounds and 'He is well rehearsed in the art of rough house tactics, and he does have a inside game which he will and does apply vs fighters historically who he has outweighed by a considerable amount'.

That is the main challenge for Oleksandr Usyk for me etc.









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