Wait a minute, did Deontay Wilder DUCK ZHANG?

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  • juggernaut666
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    #41
    Originally posted by BoxOfficer

    It's still a duck, if the fighter in question is renowned for saying no one wants to fight him.

    He calls it a gift and a curse. But this opportunity was for money he wouldn't find anywhere at this time, as well as an opportunity back into the mix.

    It was indeed, a duck.
    Listen I hate Wilder but if no obligation is there it’s not a duck…


    The truth is Wilder needs easier fights than Zhang and he needs to get back in the mix which he will if he wins his next fight.

    He can say whatever he wants it doesn’t matter unless he said Zhang ducked him then he ducked Zhang it’s not realistic. That fight was never really discussed with back and forth we all know this .

    Wilder is a dumb as hell but ducking Zhang doesn’t fit here . There was no fight to be ducked .

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    • Mammoth
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      #42
      The Saudis wanted Zhang-Wilder more than the fight they ended up with, Zhang vs the guy who just beat Wilder? I'm skeptical.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Mammoth
        The Saudis wanted Zhang-Wilder more than the fight they ended up with, Zhang vs the guy who just beat Wilder? I'm skeptical.
        I'd say it's more Fast Eddie and Fisheyes Turki whispering into thinking what they want him to think while thinking he's thinking it for himself.

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        • BoxOfficer
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          #44
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          Listen I hate Wilder but if no obligation is there it’s not a duck…


          The truth is Wilder needs easier fights than Zhang and he needs to get back in the mix which he will if he wins his next fight.

          He can say whatever he wants it doesn’t matter unless he said Zhang ducked him then he ducked Zhang it’s not realistic. That fight was never really discussed with back and forth we all know this .

          Wilder is a dumb as hell but ducking Zhang doesn’t fit here . There was no fight to be ducked .
          The Saudis don't do back and forth. They ask if a fighter would take a fight against another fighter. If the answer is yes from both ends, they make offers hard to reject, hence, the fights we have seen so far and the ones to come.

          Zhang is on video saying the Wilder fight was put to him and that he would take it. Wilder's manager also said something in that line but not exactly.

          The Saudis want Wilder right back into the mix, all for the AJ/Wilder fight, but Wilder DUCKED.

          Let's wait and see who he will fight next.

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            #45
            There is no such thing as "I need a time" if Saudis ask.

            That was a great chance for Wilder to get back in the mix. All he needed to do is KO zhang. But probably he doesn`t believe he can do that.

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              #46
              Wilder I am not so sure is ducking any fight, but? He is not actively chasing any of the top fighters.

              Wilder has been semi-retired within his attitude since Wilder vs Fury III.

              The aura of intimidation surrounding his power has decreased, and without that? What else does Wilder have in his game?

              Wilder may have punching power with his best punch, but skill for skill his offense is not on the level of 'Mike Tyson's, and many more past great Heavyweight fighters'.

              Note: Before the Ngannou vs Joshua fight was made, I? Preferred team Joshua to make the fight with Wilder 'And if they had to, stage the fight back in the UK'.

              I am still of this opinion, if Joshua beats Nagnnou 'And there is a possibility to make the Wilder fight, before moving on to Usyk, Fury or a fight for a vacate title against whoever. Then I still honestly believe that Joshua should fight Wilder'.

              Get Wilder out of the way, and knock out another former Tyson Fury opponent.

              I have seen Wilder in recent interviews claim that he believes he did enough to beat Parker 'So really if he truly believes that, he should have no issue with jumping straight into a fight with Joshua' etc.

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                #47
                Duck talk is weirdo sh^t first off, but if you are gonna be a duck person there are still rules to this weirdo sh^t.

                And for this fight that rule would be you can't duck a guy ABOVE you esp after an L. And at this point Zhang is the higher up guy & Deontay is coming off his worst L.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Lance98
                  Wilder looks like he might be done with boxing after losing to parker. There is no duck here. He keeps talking about his investments constantly and stuff shows where his mind is at.
                  Deontay has been done I think. He's been smiling too much lol. A happy, generational wealth having late 30's boxer is rarely gonna be a guy anyone should be worried about.

                  Also of note Deontay was on a reality game show, The Traitors, pre-Parker fight, altho its just airing now, & Deontay was fooked up in the 2nd episode about voting a person off the show & lost his sh^t in the 3rd episode to the point of crying about voting a different person off. At the beginning of the 4th episode they announced Deontay left the show. In an article the other day he said he got fooked up over childhood trauma. This is not the mfer we used to watch fight.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BoxOfficer

                    The Saudis don't do back and forth. They ask if a fighter would take a fight against another fighter. If the answer is yes from both ends, they make offers hard to reject, hence, the fights we have seen so far and the ones to come.

                    Zhang is on video saying the Wilder fight was put to him and that he would take it. Wilder's manager also said something in that line but not exactly.

                    The Saudis want Wilder right back into the mix, all for the AJ/Wilder fight, but Wilder DUCKED.

                    Let's wait and see who he will fight next.
                    He needs Ruiz ,inactive and the best possible match up . He won’t have Parker’s reach nor engine either .

                    Putting Wilder against a 6”8 puncher and southpaw power puncher after another Loss isn’t ducking it’s just practical not to do that and if he was advised to take such a fight he has more idiots around him more then we thought . To risky when you have one foot out the door as I post this in the top boxing world .
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 01-31-2024, 10:26 AM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas

                      Deontay has been done I think. He's been smiling too much lol. A happy, generational wealth having late 30's boxer is rarely gonna be a guy anyone should be worried about.

                      Also of note Deontay was on a reality game show, The Traitors, pre-Parker fight, altho its just airing now, & Deontay was fooked up in the 2nd episode about voting a person off the show & lost his sh^t in the 3rd episode to the point of crying about voting a different person off. At the beginning of the 4th episode they announced Deontay left the show. In an article the other day he said he got fooked up over childhood trauma. This is not the mfer we used to watch fight.
                      Well it sounds like that show is made for him since everyone is a traitor in his mind when he losses or doesn’t get his way of course his mental also resurfaced and unraveled him again I refer to it as mental illness like I been saying it for years the thing Fury pretends to have .

                      Deontay explained. “You get a lot of traitors in my profession, so I’m used that world.”

                      The funny thing is he probably also got a guilty conscience because his brother has recently accused him of having an affair with his girlfriend fir several years ( how did that not make news ? ) so subconsciously he shouldn’t probably be on that show looks to me like he’s reflecting his own doings ? Lol
                      Last edited by juggernaut666; 01-31-2024, 10:54 AM.

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