Undisputed Belt

[kiaba360]

They can't force anyone, but every man has his price.

....which means there's still a choice. The fact that there was a bunch of HWs on "Day of Reckoning" proves that the Saudis understand the necessity to keep some semblance of integrity to the sport. Fury opened this door, so I can't fault AJ (who doesn't have a title like Fury) too much for accepting the same opportunity. Hopefully AJ cleans up the mess Fury created. The Saudis need to get Zhang involved.

[JakeTheBoxer]

They can't force anyone, but every man has his price.

Fury, Joshua and Usyk have .more money us two have seen in our lifes.

Saudis can' t really buy them

[dan-b]

The Saudi takeover is an improvement on what we had. If you keep comparing it to some unachievable utopia then obviously it will fall short.

Boxing is a transient sport, embrace the chaos and try to get some enjoyment from it.

[MulaKO]

Fury, Joshua and Usyk have .more money us two have seen in our lifes.

Saudis can' t really buy them

Saudis can actually sell all three on credit

[techliam]

Very tacky looking belt

this concept really needs the ABC org’s buy in to make this work

otherwise it’s just another belt on top of the garbage heap

[Toffee]

Very tacky looking belt

this concept really needs the ABC org’s buy in to make this work

otherwise it’s just another belt on top of the garbage heap

If Fury (for example) beats Usyk and then drops the org belts, which fight would you give more credence?

• Ajagba v Andersen for an existing org's strap; or
• Joshua v Fury for the 'Undisputed' belt

Fury, Usyk, Joshua, Ngannou, Wilder, Sanchez, Kabayel, Parker, Zhang, Hrgovic, Dubois... they're all on the Saudi payroll. There isn't much left!

Do they need the orgs if they've got the fighters and promoters?

[JakeTheBoxer]

If Fury (for example) beats Usyk and then drops the org belts, which fight would you give more credence?

• Ajagba v Andersen for an existing org's strap; or
• Joshua v Fury for the 'Undisputed' belt

Fury, Usyk, Joshua, Ngannou, Wilder, Sanchez, Kabayel, Parker, Zhang, Hrgovic, Dubois... they're all on the Saudi payroll. There isn't much left!

Do they need the orgs if they've got the fighters and promoters?

You have the point, but we are talking about one division only. Ok, two divisions, if we include 175.

[MulaKO]

Very tacky looking belt

this concept really needs the ABC org’s buy in to make this work

otherwise it’s just another belt on top of the garbage heap

That’s all it is , just another belt kind of like wbc does whenever something special, of course according to them , kind of belt
Now if the Saudis were to start their own league like they did in golf with Liv ……

[Toffee]

That’s all it is , just another belt kind of like wbc does whenever something special, of course according to them , kind of belt
Now if the Saudis were to start their own league like they did in golf with Liv ……

They've done it. That's what this is.

The Saudis didn't ask for the PGA to get on board. They started off by hosting events under their banner and then made the call to go head to head with them as LIV and took some of their headline names. The PGA eventually had to accept it couldn't ignore them anymore. The Saudis never folded - the PGA folded.

The biggest names at heavyweight have all fought (or will fight) in Saudi through a period of about 6 months, sanctioned by the orgs. Now they're announcing their own title which exists independently of any existing organisational title. They're following the same model as LIV.

From a fan perspective the big difference between this and the WBC is that the Saudis have made the fights that the WBC couldn't or wouldn't. Same as all the other orgs.

[MulaKO]

They've done it. That's what this is.

The Saudis didn't ask for the PGA to get on board. They started off by hosting events under their banner and then made the call to go head to head with them as LIV and took some of their headline names. The PGA eventually had to accept it couldn't ignore them anymore. The Saudis never folded - the PGA folded.

The biggest names at heavyweight have all fought (or will fight) in Saudi through a period of about 6 months, sanctioned by the orgs. Now they're announcing their own title which exists independently of any existing organisational title. They're following the same model as LIV.

From a fan perspective the big difference between this and the WBC is that the Saudis have made the fights that the WBC couldn't or wouldn't. Same as all the other orgs.

Ok
Wasn’t aware of that meaning the boxing
Just thought it was like when Canelo fought and the WBC made a belt for the fugh of it