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  • MulaKO
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    #91
    Originally posted by Cypocryphy

    Yeah. This is Hearn's being a jackass. I just listened to him this morning, talking about this on Secondsout or one of those channels. He brought this up, then used it as a segue to bring up Connor Ben and that there's double standards. He started to whinge about how he's being picked on, yet other fighters get away with it.

    It was one of the more cringy interviews I've ever heard from him.
    Wish they would of mentioned Whyte getting in the ring with Rivas and Slow Eddie fully aware of him being busted for peds
    Where was his enthusiasm for knowledge then ?
    Slow Eddie planted his seed and now is playing the victim because he’s caught with his foot in his pos mouth
    Fugh him and I hope this brings him the shame and lawsuit he deserves
    Leaking this to Iole smfh

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      #92
      Originally posted by MulaKO

      Wish they would of mentioned Whyte getting in the ring with Rivas and Slow Eddie fully aware of him being busted for peds
      Where was his enthusiasm for knowledge then ?
      Slow Eddie planted his seed and now is playing the victim because he’s caught with his foot in his pos mouth
      Fugh him and I hope this brings him the shame and lawsuit he deserves
      Leaking this to Iole smfh
      Yeah. There's one thing I know for a fact, and that is Beterbiev is PISSED! He's so upset that he didn't even go the the fighter meeting today. He no-showed. And when you look at his response to Hearn's allegations, he's claiming that Hearn is attempting to ruin his character. I would not be surprised if Beterbeiv brings a civil action against Hearn for defamation of character. Where Beterbeiv comes from, a man's reputation means a lot. For some of us, attacking our reputation is like attacking our home and family. Even guys in prison, reputation matters. They live and die by their reputation, and if you attack someone's reputation in prison, you'll probably be taken out. Usually, they will kill you if you say something that's not true. So when people get reckless with what they say about others, they run the risk of serious consequences. I will not be surprised if Beterbeiv takes this out on Smith and then Hearn.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Cypocryphy

        Yeah. There's one thing I know for a fact, and that is Beterbiev is PISSED! He's so upset that he didn't even go the the fighter meeting today. He no-showed. And when you look at his response to Hearn's allegations, he's claiming that Hearn is attempting to ruin his character. I would not be surprised if Beterbeiv brings a civil action against Hearn for defamation of character. Where Beterbeiv comes from, a man's reputation means a lot. For some of us, attacking our reputation is like attacking our home and family. Even guys in prison, reputation matters. They live and die by their reputation, and if you attack someone's reputation in prison, you'll probably be taken out. Usually, they will kill you if you say something that's not true. So when people get reckless with what they say about others, they run the risk of serious consequences. I will not be surprised if Beterbeiv takes this out on Smith and then Hearn.
        Spoke to someone who’s very close to their team this afternoon
        He is beyond pissed
        Just hope he doesn’t do anything crazy in there to even come close to jeopardizing everything he’s worked for
        He has already signed for the Bivol fight so .............
        Tell you what , this is like a prisoner being called a Rat
        Either stand up or you’ll never sit the same way again

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          #94
          Originally posted by MulaKO

          Spoke to someone who’s very close to their team this afternoon
          He is beyond pissed
          Just hope he doesn’t do anything crazy in there to even come close to jeopardizing everything he’s worked for
          He has already signed for the Bivol fight so .............
          Tell you what , this is like a prisoner being called a Rat
          Either stand up or you’ll never sit the same way again
          Damn. Yeah. He looked it man. I also hope he doesn't do anything crazy too. He definitely can't get reckless in there when Smith has that left hook. Some guys fight well angry and some burn themself out really quickly and make mistakes. I suspect he's the former. Too bad the IceMan is not on here so we could ask him what's going on.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Cypocryphy

            Damn. Yeah. He looked it man. I also hope he doesn't do anything crazy too. He definitely can't get reckless in there when Smith has that left hook. Some guys fight well angry and some burn themself out really quickly and make mistakes. I suspect he's the former. Too bad the IceMan is not on here so we could ask him what's going on.
            It’s all good , trust me
            I think he’s to well schooled to let this boil over to the wrong degree
            Artur is begging for unification , he won’t fugh it up
            I’m with my children or I’d be at fight
            Plus the weather warning ( 25 cm expected )

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              #96
              Originally posted by Joseph

              I don't know, I am not an expert on body chemistry; just the very basic stuff you learn in middle/high school. I've read that the levels can be "atypically" higher after grueling exercise the older you get. Point is, no actual chemical was found in testing, just the stuff the body produces naturally, and only (again) atypical, not adverse. And knowing Hearn, it was probably a point or two beyond the normal range.

              All we can do is wait and see. But bet your bottom dollar Beterbiev will be under intense scrutiny going forward.
              I think I can help with the Testosterone part: if a 38 yo athlete has (clearly) higher levels than before previous fights, it´s 100 % PEDs. No other way to achieve that.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Roadblock
                Seems the people that know what they talking about have no concerns with this, said these kinda spikes are very common that's why its not a failed test.

                Absolute BS. A 38 yo athlete´s Test levels don´t "spike" up without external boost. AB might have higher than normal levels naturally and consistently, which is fine. But higher than before? No effing way. But with the information Hearn gave we simply can´t know.
                (just to be clear, test levels can crash lower with over training, sleep deprivation, alcohol etc)

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Slowhand

                  I think I can help with the Testosterone part: if a 38 yo athlete has (clearly) higher levels than before previous fights, it´s 100 % PEDs. No other way to achieve that.
                  We don't know if they are higher than previous fights. As was reported, "atypical" readings sometimes occur. We don't hear about them because they don't mean anything. For whatever reason, Hearn decided to bring attention to VADA doing a subsequent test to verifying Beterbiev is clean, which he was. Not once did he test negatively. This is not some "red flag." Hearn is playing mind games.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Slowhand

                    Absolute BS. A 38 yo athlete´s Test levels don´t "spike" up without external boost. AB might have higher than normal levels naturally and consistently, which is fine. But higher than before? No effing way. But with the information Hearn gave we simply can´t know.
                    (just to be clear, test levels can crash lower with over training, sleep deprivation, alcohol etc)
                    That's not true. Intermittent fasting is a way to boost levels. That's why you can't do this test early in the morning. Sprinting raises levels. All kinds of things. That's why you have to do subsequent testing to determine if the testosterone is natural or synthetic, which is what VADA did.

                    I'm not saying this to defend Beterbiev. I'm saying this because this is what I know to be true.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                      That's not true. Intermittent fasting is a way to boost levels. That's why you can't do this test early in the morning. Sprinting raises levels. All kinds of things. That's why you have to do subsequent testing to determine if the testosterone is natural or synthetic, which is what VADA did.

                      I'm not saying this to defend Beterbiev. I'm saying this because this is what I know to be true.
                      What your saying is the first thing that pops up when googled
                      But still people here discrediting the facts from true doctors
                      Funny as fugh but hey what you wanna do
                      There’s a poster on here , going on a crusade over peds but won’t mention his two favourite fighters who have been caught on peds
                      That is a positive for peds but he’s out here crusading against a guy who hasn’t tested positive for Peds
                      Beyond me
                      Smfh

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