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  • Dr. Ironfist
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    #81
    Originally posted by BEEHOP
    You sound very bitter that Lewis won and is better even at 37 than a PRIME VK. It's a shame really, that you are so ignorant to the FACTS.

    I gotta agree with the above post, getting injured in a BOXING match is ALOT different than a marathon/race you idiot, you are trying to INJURY your opponent in a Boxing match not so much in a race. Then again you don't sound like the smartest so I'm wasting my time.

    Prime Lewis beats Prime VK by KO, UD, TKO etc. He's better.
    Vitali hadone week to train for a HW championship fight. Why wouldnt Lewis give him the time to prepare and spend the money training that a HW championship challenger would have. Oh yeah, because he was a coward. Vitali wasn't prime. He had a week to prep. He is a brilliant tactician and wasnt given anytime to prepare. Lewis was beat and retired. In football players get injured. So I suppose you think Brett Favre is the greatest player ever since he's been injured the least amount. So Brady is tarnished for blowing out a knee? Prime Lewis got KTFO by two bums. Vitali has never been down dude. Never. He is much better than Lewis and forced Lewis into retirement.

    Love the people who bring up 37 like its old for a HW. Lewis was coming off his biggest victory of his career and one of his most dominating performances. Lewis ducked the best fighters of his era. And then retired so not to face Vitali or look like a coward by ducking him. Vitali ended Lewis' career. Get over it.

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    • BEEHOP
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      #82
      Originally posted by Dr. Ironfist
      Vitali hadone week to train for a HW championship fight. Why wouldnt Lewis give him the time to prepare and spend the money training that a HW championship challenger would have. Oh yeah, because he was a coward. Vitali wasn't prime. He had a week to prep. He is a brilliant tactician and wasnt given anytime to prepare. Lewis was beat and retired. In football players get injured. So I suppose you think Brett Favre is the greatest player ever since he's been injured the least amount. So Brady is tarnished for blowing out a knee? Prime Lewis got KTFO by two bums. Vitali has never been down dude. Never. He is much better than Lewis and forced Lewis into retirement.

      Love the people who bring up 37 like its old for a HW. Lewis was coming off his biggest victory of his career and one of his most dominating performances. Lewis ducked the best fighters of his era. And then retired so not to face Vitali or look like a coward by ducking him. Vitali ended Lewis' career. Get over it.
      Haha it's funny that you think you live in a different world were any of that would make sense. Fact is Lewis beat him handily enough the first time while coming in looking his worst. Like I said the GOAL(somewhat) in boxing is to try and INJURE and hurt your opponent, it's really pretty obvious, they are of course punching one another, which causes injuries like Cuts, hurt shoulders etc(I can't believe I have to write that out for you). If Vitali played baseball or soccer than having injuries would not take anything away from him, but boxing injuries DO MATTER, and they can make you LOSE like they did for Vitali.

      If you really think Vitali scared Lewis into retirement, than you must say that Bernard Hopkins scared Joe Calzaghe into retirement, since he arguably won that fight even at 43, Joe was scared to rematch him as he didn't want to lose his 0.
      Last edited by BEEHOP; 10-09-2009, 06:46 PM.

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      • MoneyMay1
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        #83
        Originally posted by Equilibrium
        1-Lennox Lewis
        2-Evander Holyfield
        3-George Foreman
        4-Rid**** Bowe
        5-Mike Tyson
        6-Vitali Klitschko
        7-David Tua
        8-Wladimir Klitschko
        9-Ray Mercer
        10-Ike Ibeabuchi(On potential alone.)
        Best list I've seen so far.

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        • Klitschko2011
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          #84
          BEEHOP is a racist black supremacist who hates the fact that Vitali and Calzaghe are better than his black heroes Lewis and Hopkins.

          Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

          THE TRUTH

          Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards. Lewis was badly hurt and was staggering around the ring like a drunk, he barely survived the 2nd round, was getting outlanded and was hurt again later in the fight.

          punches landed

          Vitali 156

          Lewis 102

          Lewis was exhausted and worn down from the accumulation of punches, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission that night and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.

          All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and boo'd Lewis after the fight. Vitali was the real winner of that fight, he dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement.

          Lewis PROMISED Vitali a rematch

          Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and the scared Lewis retired like a coward shortly after that fight.

          Lewis turned down 25 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew Vitali would destroy him and tarnish his legacy.


          Joe Calzaghe vs Bernard Hopkins

          Calzaghe clearly won the fight, he totally outworked and **** ****d that racist prick Hopkins.

          shots landed

          Calzaghe 232

          Hopkins 127

          Harold Lederman's scorecard was perfect, I had the same score.

          116-111 for Calzaghe.

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          • Mersey
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            #85
            Originally posted by Klitschko2009
            BEEHOP is a racist black supremacist who hates the fact that Vitali and Calzaghe are better than his black heroes Lewis and Hopkins.

            Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

            THE TRUTH

            Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards. Lewis was badly hurt and was staggering around the ring like a drunk, he barely survived the 2nd round, was getting outlanded and was hurt again later in the fight.

            punches landed

            Vitali 156

            Lewis 102

            Lewis was exhausted and worn down from the accumulation of punches, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission that night and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.

            All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and boo'd Lewis after the fight. Vitali was the real winner of that fight, he dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement.

            Lewis PROMISED Vitali a rematch

            Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and the scared Lewis retired like a coward shortly after that fight.

            Lewis turned down 25 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew Vitali would destroy him and tarnish his legacy.

            Who won?

            Oh yeah I remember... it was Lennox Lewis.

            Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko. End of discussion.

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            • HeartAttack
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              #86
              Originally posted by Dr. Ironfist
              Love Bhop fans who whine that Joe Calzaghe should have rematched hopkins instead of retiring and question the legitimacy of Joe's win over Bhop on here worship Lewis and defend him retiring instead of giving Vitali who wasnt beat, but rather cut, a rematch. What a joke. At least be consistent.

              First off. Anyone who has Foreman on their top ten list needs to be banned. What a joke. Dude lost to Tommy Morrison. Wow, he had a lucky punch and became a short lived partial owner of the HW championship. Who cares. John Ruiz has a better resume over the last 20 years than Foreman. People anking Byrd over Wlad need to GTFO as well. I think Wlad proved that he is a lot better than Byrd. Wlad has better stats, fought better opponents, has a better record, was champion about 10x longer than Byrd...oh yeah and took two titles from Chris Byrd....If you have Byrd over Wlad...delete your account and start over. A large part of these lists are opinion, but I would like someone to debate me how Byrd is better than Wlad when Wlad has 2 wins over him, one before Byrd was 30, and the other when Byrd was in his mid 30's. Speaking of Byrd, do you know what is funny, he got KTFO'ed by Calzaghe in the amateurs.

              The Real Top 10-

              Vitali Klitschko- Unbeatable. No heavyweight would have odds against him. Never been knocked down, highest KO percentage. I love people who say, "well he is better because he had 4 years off." They are the same people who say "Ali would be so great if he didnt have 3 years off." Hmm...wouldnt that make him 3 years older? So the Ali who lost to Spinks would have been fighting Foreman and Frazier. Hmm...I think he gets KTFO'd in those three fights and without those wins his resume is garbage. Vitali has never finished a fight behind the scorecards. You can really only hope to cut him or that he injures himself punching in your face. Only way he can be beat. Greatest heavyweight of all time.

              Lennox Lewis- A great HW. Has a strong resume, but unlike Vitali who takes on everyone, Lewis ducked the greats of his age. Even took money to step out of the way for HW fights. Best win is a TKO on cuts against Vitali. Then he retired. Lewis was training for a HW championship fight before fighting Vitali. Vitali was training for a fight against a journeyman. If you dont think you train differently for a HW championship fight or would prepare your body differently then you don't know boxing.

              Wladimir Klitschko- The Purrity fight was a joke where Wlad had fought 4 times in 70 days and 10 times in a year and was exhausted. It was bad management to choose to fight Purrity as he is one of the hardest guys of all time to KO.

              Rid**** Bowe- Great record. Could have been greater. Like Lewis did not fight the best fighters he could. he was a good champion though. Had his weight been kept in check he could have been an all time great. Instead he is in the middle of this list.

              Evander Holyfield-hard not to put him on this list. The wins over Tyson and the fact that he would fight anyone just make it so you have to. Sheer longevity helps as well.

              Iron Mike-Was a good fighter. Not a great, but a strong fighter, a good champion. Fell apart. A lost of his nuthuggers say it was about mental problems, but in fact he never could have been great. Way too small and in the era of giant heavyweights he never would ahve stood a chance

              Andrew Golata- he was good, just had no heart.

              Corrie Sanders- Was a great fighter. Not popular like a Tua or Ibeabuchi, but much much better

              Chris Byrd

              Herbie Hide
              read the first couple sentences of this post and realized the ignorance of it was too great to finish. Quite possibly a ****** or someone who never got past kindergarten thinks along these lines. The audacity to call anyone else a nuthugger is amazing. I want to punch you in the neck for the sake of humanity. Dear god don't post again.

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              • shyboirank#1
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                #87
                mike tyson there is no #2-10 there can only be 1

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                • Johnny Rebel
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by BEEHOP
                  Dude, Lewis won so there for he should be ranked higher (that and his amazing resume of course, even if he lost he'd still be ranked higher). Doing really well, but still losing is not a win so don't even try. I can make a way better argument that Bernard Hopkins beat Joe Calzahge than you ever could that Vitali beat Lewis, because LEWIS WON BY KO(TKO).

                  You type of fans are the worst, you like to make up "what ifs" just because you like a fighter more than another. The fact is that the worst version of Lennox handily beat Vitali into a bloody pulp (literally) and that's that. There's no need for a rematch when Lewis is nearly 40 and won by TKO.
                  Calzaghe clearly beat Hopkins as was the opinion of the overwhelming majority who saw the fight while Vitali lost to Lewis on a referees/doctors judgment call that could have just as easily been ruled an accidental clash of heads as it was from a punch (since it was inconclusive) and Vitali would've won the title over Lewis on a technical (and controversial) unanimous decision.

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                  • BEEHOP
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
                    Calzaghe clearly beat Hopkins as was the opinion of the overwhelming majority who saw the fight while Vitali lost to Lewis on a referees/doctors judgment call that could have just as easily been ruled an accidental clash of heads as it was from a punch (since it was inconclusive) and Vitali would've won the title over Lewis on a technical (and controversial) unanimous decision.
                    It was a punch that did it. Pretty clear in my eyes and pretty much everyone else. Lewis won by a TKO cut caused by a PUNCH. End of.

                    Bernard Hopkins wasn't TKO'ed by Joe, it's not even close. If we are comparing who did better in which fight, Bernard did easily. You could even make the argument that he won on points, not so much with Vitali who was stopped in the 6th.

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                    • BEEHOP
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Klitschko2009
                      BEEHOP is a racist black supremacist who hates the fact that Vitali and Calzaghe are better than his black heroes Lewis and Hopkins.

                      Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

                      THE TRUTH

                      Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards. Lewis was badly hurt and was staggering around the ring like a drunk, he barely survived the 2nd round, was getting outlanded and was hurt again later in the fight.

                      punches landed

                      Vitali 156

                      Lewis 102

                      Lewis was exhausted and worn down from the accumulation of punches, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission that night and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.

                      All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and boo'd Lewis after the fight. Vitali was the real winner of that fight, he dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement.

                      Lewis PROMISED Vitali a rematch

                      Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and the scared Lewis retired like a coward shortly after that fight.

                      Lewis turned down 25 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew Vitali would destroy him and tarnish his legacy.


                      Joe Calzaghe vs Bernard Hopkins

                      Calzaghe clearly won the fight, he totally outworked and **** ****d that racist prick Hopkins.

                      shots landed

                      Calzaghe 232

                      Hopkins 127

                      Harold Lederman's scorecard was perfect, I had the same score.

                      116-111 for Calzaghe.
                      Lennox Lewis totally won the VK fight not even close, because he won via TKO. I never mention race, but you are the only one who is a racist, calling me "black boy" many times. You can't accept the fact that Lewis handily STOPPED Vitali. Bernard was much more competitive than Vitali in the sole fact that he made it 12 rounds, and arguably won on points (the knockdown, plus clean effective counter punching).

                      Oh yeah, and I just wanted to say that YOU are the racist one, not me. You are the only one who mentions race. You are a racist who isn't even a boxing fan, you are a fan of only white boxers, it's clear from your postings.

                      Fact is Lewis TKO'ed Vitali, punch stats don't matter when you lose by TKO. Can I convince you that Taylor beat Froch? Using punch stats and score cards I could, but it's useless since he and VK both lost by TKO.

                      It's funny how biased you are.

                      Racist prick.

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